JEANBO 364 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Not to be mean but who's Natalia Kills?? Lady Gaga fan stuck in TFM era, build her carrer out of it. I'm joking, she's great check out Mirrors, Kill My Boyfriend, Wonderland, Saturday Night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I get it. After being degraded for so long based on their appearance, curvier women are finally embracing and celebrating their bodies, but are unfortunately doing it in a way that degrades the same women that were seen as the gold standard. It makes sense and I doubt it's intentional or malicious, but it needs to stop. ON ANOTHER NOTE, I'm annoyed with all of the dragging of Anaconda. Like jesus, she's keeping in line with the theme of the original song. Get off her dick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Both are songs with a terrible message and stupid lyrics, so it doesn't matter if she is talking about All About That Bass or Anaconda. People should not take those songs too seriously, but Nicki needs to stop preaching about feminism and female empowerment if she is going to release songs like Anaconda, because now everything she says and does looks like a publicity stunt. And you'd better stop using her '#2 hit' as an argument because remember that katy has more hits than your fave and you never use them as an argument. :sweep: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsweezy 0 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I dunno, it's hard for me to be offended when people "skinny shame," because I don't have any insecurity about that to feel ashamed in response? And with ALL of the positive imagery of skinny people we see all around us in advertising, I don't really see why anyone would be ashamed to be skinny?? Fat shaming is hurtful because people are constantly harassed about being overweight and therefore "unattractive" and "unlovable", so when someone makes a comment trying to shame them about their weight it hits a place that is already hurting. So when people talk about skinny shaming, to me it seems like they're just pretending to be offended, honestly. Like, why do you care that this ONE full bodied woman (or hell even if it's many full bodied women) think they're s-xier than you, when basically THE ENTIRE REST OF SOCIETY thinks your body is beautifuland something to aspire to? I couldn't agree more! But I guess we can't generalize cuz you will find people who are skinny and insecure because they want to have a curvier body aspiring to kim kardshian, nikki minaj ... etc and they can't get that because idk maybe they have a fast metabolism so telling them they are not attractive, anorexic and not s-xy can be hurtful. On the other hand I totally agree with you. Media and advertising have implanted this Ideal in the back of our brains that you have to be skinny!model skinny. Thats whats considered beautiful and even s-xy. Thats what 90 percent of our society thinks so people are shaming bigger size girls and they dare to do that even in the media and sometimes they hide it under the argument of health. Like being a bit over weight or actually (normal sized) is unhealthy and some people are stupid enough they think that being over weight = morbidly obese. So seriously guys a couple of songs about being proud to have curves and calling out skinny girls is NOTHING next what heavier girls experience when being called out as unattractive on a daily basis. In the end nobody deserves to be bullied, harassed of called about their body type! Every girl is beautiful in her own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knowles 2 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 After all these years of fat shaming now theres skinny shaming lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomonster12 239 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Lady Gaga fan stuck in TFM era, build her carrer out of it. I'm joking, she's great check out Mirrors, Kill My Boyfriend, Wonderland, Saturday Night oh ok she kinda looks eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpggal 332 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Telling a skinny woman that a man would never date them because they don't have curves is as disgusting as telling a heavier woman that a man will never date them because they're not skin and bones. It's a double edged sword. Mocking anyone for their weight or tit size or ass size is tacky and disrespectful and it's appalling to think that it's considered 'acceptable' to make fun of woman who doesn't have the curves to look good dancing in a club. I'm not saying it's not wrong and disrespectful, I'm just confused about how anyone can be offended or feel ashamed by someone saying "a man would never date you because you don't have curves," when it's so OBVIOUSLY not true. Skinny is "hot" right now. I have small boobs and a small ass and I'm told ALL the time by guys how perfect each of those are, and how perfect by body is overall. That's just a fact about what the esthetic is right now. I don't feel like that makes me any better than women of different body types, but I can only imagine what it's like to not fit that mold that society is constantly pushing on us, to never feel good enough, to have men ignore you because you don't fit it, to have people flat out insult you because of it. Honestly, being skinny affords me a lot of privilege in this society, and I feel like the people who are complaining about "skinny shaming" are ignoring that privilege, and making false equivalences between the insults that they receive, which are essentially words alone and not at all reflections of how they will be treated in day-to-day life, and the insults overweight women receive, which have very real practical consequences in how they are treated by society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpggal 332 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I couldn't agree more! But I guess we can't generalize cuz you will find people who are skinny and insecure because they want to have a curvier body aspiring to kim kardshian, nikki minaj ... etc and they can't get that because idk maybe they have a fast metabolism so telling them they are not attractive, anorexic and not s-xy can be hurtful. On the other hand I totally agree with you. Media and advertising have implanted this Ideal in the back of our brains that you have to be skinny!model skinny. Thats whats considered beautiful and even s-xy. Thats what 90 percent of our society thinks so people are shaming bigger size girls and they dare to do that even in the media and sometimes they hide it under the argument of health. Like being a bit over weight or actually (normal sized) is unhealthy and some people are stupid enough they think that being over weight = morbidly obese. So seriously guys a couple of songs about being proud to have curves and calling out skinny girls is NOTHING next what heavier girls experience when being called out as unattractive on a daily basis. In the end nobody deserves to be bullied, harassed of called about their body type! Every girl is beautiful in her own way. I totally agree. And hiding that shaming under the guise of 'health concerns,' is actually even worse because it spreads a lot of misinformation about what is actually healthy. "Overweight" people live longer than both skinny and obese individuals. So if healthy means living longer, then we need to re-evaluate what we consider to be "overweight." The other thing that irks me is when they hide it under "it's a self-control issue." No, it's not. BMI has an 80% heredity. That means that 80% of the variance in weight by population is determined by genetics alone. So that one is bogus. And I'm starting to even feel like this "skinny shaming" is another way to hide fat shaming, like the whole reverse-racism thing. Notice how Natalia threw in the word "overweight" in her tweet. There was no need to classify someone larger than a size 6 as overweight to get her point across. It seems like it was thrown in there just to re-establish that skinny is the ideal and full-bodied the abnormal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Skinny shaming is disgusting tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eros 26 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 ...and the 10 tweets + below her comments were totally unrelated to what she said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 She should stfu, fat/overweight people are bullied all the time ALL, she shouldnt play the victim as a skinny/thin person, because skinny people are praised everywhere, films, music, entertainment in general (magazines, photography, etc). OK, some of them are bullied too but its nowhere near the bully that people with overweight or curvier body lives with. PD: Even Gaga when she gains weight, media is the first to point that out, even her fans, so dont act like thinner people suffers more from bullying than overweight people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteStripes 0 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah but it's a nicki minaj song. I don't expect any intellectual lyrics or anything and neither should she lmao as if you've heard every nicki minaj song ever released... maybe you'd actually see her intelligence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaprincess 23 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 a) if you listen to the song in full, the singer says skinny b---hes she says, im just kidding..so i dont see why natalia or anyone else is getting so up in arms about it? b) i dont like natalia's choice of words, and how she's twisting it around. it is a positive message. the fact theres people who do have a problem with the song, sounds like it speaks to a larger problem that society has where big or plus size women arent supposed to praise their weight or body and are suppsed to be ashamed of it. c) as a full-figured woman, i find it refreshing to hear a song that sings about loving your body. natalia sounds pressed to me.she needs to focus on making music... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Angel 128 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 my anaconda dont want none of natalia kills' words we all know its not right to shame any body type but dont act so offended give the big gurls a moment of glory seeing how theyve spent decades being labeled in pop culture as "unnatractive" due to their size. You said it best. Although I think it's wrong to attack any body type (male and especially women), bigger girls always get the short end of the stick when it comes to public reception and opportunities. She also said "Small framed models are used in Ad's so that the focus stays on the product being advertised, not the s-xually appealing curves of the model" which, to me, is total B.S. Sexually appealing curves? No, the fashion industry is infamous for hiring a certain kind of model; usually always pale skin, super thin. Big girls are always being looked at as not good enough. Certain groups of people can't have mini-victories without someone trying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I get it. After being degraded for so long based on their appearance, curvier women are finally embracing and celebrating their bodies, but are unfortunately doing it in a way that degrades the same women that were seen as the gold standard. It makes sense and I doubt it's intentional or malicious, but it needs to stop. ON ANOTHER NOTE, I'm annoyed with all of the dragging of Anaconda. Like jesus, she's keeping in line with the theme of the original song. Get off her dick. I agree with Natalia Kills and I agree with everything you said here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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