EdX 2,901 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) let me guess. You live in america and watch Fox/CNN?the only place where the news are different is russia. In EU, USA and everywhere else the news are the same. Actually, we in Latvia have some russian channels in our television and one time not long ago we watched the news to see if there was any difference from our news. The difference was unbelievable. Putin is brain-washing you. +that picture you posted is a clear fact that you are brainwashed Edited July 17, 2014 by Light Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 99,112 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 They mistook them. Without radar and or being able to see them one of the parties thought it was a jet fighter most likely. The dutch plane thought they were safe. Till 7 km you have international laws but they were cruising at 10km thinking they were safe (30.000 feet) Oh so they didn't check where the plane was coming from and decided to take it down? Congrats that's very sensible :applause: If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziva 193 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) I just don't get why they took down a plane that was coming from Netherlands going to Malaysia :excuseme: Like, what those people have to do with the whole Russia and Ukraine drama They think pro-Russia Ukrainians shot it down because they thought it was a plane carrying Ukrainian weapons. At least that's what multiple sources are reporting rn :( Edited July 17, 2014 by Ziva Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 99,112 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 They think pro-Russia Ukrainians shot it down because they thought it was a plane carrying Ukrainian weapons. At least that's what multiple sources are reporting rn :( Oh :( War sucks a lot. If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Is thete any evidence who did it? What was what they wanted? Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 They think pro-Russia Ukrainians shot it down because the thought it was a plane carrying Ukrainian weapons. At least that's what multiple sources are reporting rn :( This is so unbelievable. It's 2014 not 1930, they could easily find out it's a ****ing passenger jet even with an iPhone app. What's wrong with people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Thousands of Ukrainians move to Russia (and other countries) from East Ukraine, as if it couldn't get worse local people suffer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Look at "separatists" violence!! Sadly, most of you are bunch of people, who can judge only by watching TV. Come to our Donetsk and see everything by yourself, then judge! Brainwashed kids And look, I understand that there are parts of Ukraine where innocent people are most likely getting hurt. Look at Israel/Palestine. And just because innocent people in Ukraine, being either pro-Russia or not, doesn't mean that Pro-Russian forces and Russian Military forces aren't. Because that's the truth. There's hate and violence on both sides, but for very different reasons. And the reason why people are becoming the aggressor is the main problem. It causes people to fight and bite without conclusions. Sadly we have to see these horrible things happen. But in response to all of your other postings, you can't blame the US or state crude lines to make your point. Your behavior is exactly why people are so up in arms. This separatists movement is pretty much the reason why all of this is happening. Plus there's a ton of anti-Ukrainian violence vids on Youtube. You can't beat around that. Edited July 17, 2014 by ZacharyMark Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope this crisis doesn't just go into oblivion and become so covered up that we barely hear about it anymore like the MH370 incident did. Then again, both tragedies are under different kind of circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You can go now. Sorry but we can't really know what's true, we don't live there. All Western media is full of propaganda, and all Russian media is full of propaganda. There's no side with NO propaganda, and who knows, perhaps he is right. We don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdX 2,901 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Sorry but we can't really know what's true, we don't live there. All Western media is full of propaganda, and all Russian media is full of propaganda. There's no side with NO propaganda, and who knows, perhaps he is right. We don't know.well yeah this is true, though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's a known fact that Ukraine is split into 2 parts. Right now the government is pro-western, and kept switching before. The whole situation is a mess, and Russians will never display facts supporting Ukraine and West, the same for Western media, but the other way around. It's a cold war. I do agree that there are separatists who want to separate from Western Ukraine. The Ukrainian army has all the rights to stop them, but as always in such conflicts there is a mess.Sorry but we can't really know what's true, we don't live there. All Western media is full of propaganda, and all Russian media is full of propaganda. There's no side with NO propaganda, and who knows, perhaps he is right. We don't know. Basically this. It is a capital MESS. Truth is in the middle Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Horrible! I really hope, the bastards who brought down the airplane will get bombarded! :( MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Sorry but we can't really know what's true, we don't live there. All Western media is full of propaganda, and all Russian media is full of propaganda. There's no side with NO propaganda, and who knows, perhaps he is right. We don't know. He could express his opinion in a nicer way, we're trying to have a civilised conversation ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You gotta be kidding me is the guy dead then? :cry: He is, people are putting his condoleance under that photo and on his fb profile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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