ThatSLAYGUY 68 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No matter how much we look into things, the GP wont take the time and therefore dismiss this as glorifying rape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefamebitch 834 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 She's saying do what you want with my body... Doesn't sound like rape at all to me and if you think THAT is rape then we highly differ in opinions on rape. If she was saying, stop touching me, don't do that to me, etc then it would be a very different story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No matter how much we look into things, the GP wont take the time and therefore dismiss this as glorifying rape When you leave out the fact this video had s-xual predators R Kelly (predator of underage girls) and Terry Richardson (abuse of power for his s-xual perversions) involved in it, you are missing the point about what the public and many fans would feel with their involvement in this video with the words do what you want with my bod and that that would play a huge role in the backlash. Lumping them both into this project was creepy and insensitive with the knocking her out thing with R Kelly standing there. He's alleged to have d--gged underage girls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ornah 0 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Bingo on all of your points. And I have been on sites where these men were mentioned and I am stunned by how many young women, children, teens have been s-xually molested, assaulted, groomed. It can be strangers, family members, trusted family friends, people in power. Their stories are heartbreaking and affect them for years to come, even their whole life, their self-esteem, issues in relationoships, s-x. The statistic is one in six females will be a victim of attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. And then there is Gaga with two s-xual predators, of all collaborators, making this type of video where she is being d--gged and objectified and used by them, fantasy or not.. Insensitive is an understatement coming from someone who is all about empowerment and self-esteem and wanting herself to be viewed as a strong female. I would expect something so insensitive and desperate coming from Miley Cyrus, not Gaga of all people. Really bizarre considering R. Kelly's victim was d--gged. The video in court, the description of the younger teen was her eyes were vacant, not there. He married Aaliyah when she was 14 or 15. until the mom got it annulled. Her mother said he ruined her daughter's life. It's who she worked with on this type of video that is disturbing. Nowhere in the documents did it say that the alleged underage woman was d--gged. Stop making things up and you can hardly even see her eyes in the video. There's no proof Aaliyah's mom ever said that. According to Aaliyah and her family, she was never married to R. Kelly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ornah 0 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 He raped dozens of underage girls over the years. He hung out at schools, bought them stuff, paid off their parents, bullied and threatened them and their family etc... And before you say he was found not guilty, you need to understand there were a lot of different tapes and it was settled out of court. Before they could testify he even sent one of the girls family on vacation for half a year and gave the father credit for playing bass on his album when the man didn't even play bass. There have been suicide attempts and many lives ruined because of what he did. The most famous of the videos was leaked and it was with a then 13 year old Reshona Edwards from the band 4 The Cause and cousin of singer Sparkle who Kelly had performed with in the past. The video not only shows Kelly having s-x with her but he actually pisses on her at one point. A lot of people were saying it was Sparkle that was pimping her out to him too. There were several other videos with underage girls found in his home but they couldn't be used as evidence because there wasn't a proper search warrant. It was all technical BS. But one of the girls did identify herself, R. Kelly and the other girl in the video (it was her best friend) as being the girls shown in the video. . Most of the things you typed are false. First of all, there weren't several s-x tapes that were settled out of court and when the police raided R. Kelly's home they found an unusual amount of adult ****o, not child ****o. The only suspicious thing police found were pics that was said to be an alleged underage female. Secondly, there's no proof he raped anyone nor proof that R. Kelly hung out high schools. Considering how famous he was in the 90's, there would be pics of him hanging outside of these supposed high schools but there are none. No proof he threatened families, sent them in vacations or bought them gifts. And lastly, Sparkle's brother-in-law is a bass player. Also another tidbit Sparkle said she was happy R. Kelly was found not guilty after the verdict was read. Jim (the guy you're quoting) refused to testify against R. Kelly when he was the one who first saw the tape. Also R. Kelly's brother admitted to lying on his own brother and contemplates suicide for breaking the family apart. Just something to dwell on... Don't bother quoting me to refute anything I typed. There's a lot people don't know about that trial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 ... with the knocking her out thing with R Kelly standing there. He's alleged to have d--gged underage girls. I didn't see this anywhere in the charges? Are you getting R. Kelly mixed up with Roman Polanski or the accusations about Bill Cosby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 So was I. I can't at the sensitivity of this Generation Wuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 61 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 At what point in the video did we see Kelly say she was going to wake up pregnant? It may have been reported but hello, receipts? At what point did we see s-x? I've had a few days to think the video through and that few scenes we saw seem cleverly put together to be something it may not be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Please can we all take a moment to remember that Gaga STOPPED THIS VIDEO FROM GOING PUBLIC. And when there was the threat of a leak a few days ago, she went to every effort to make sure it never saw the light of day. Evidently she knows how bad this video looks to people. Yes, she made a stupid decision by making this video in the first place, but let's try to remember she only had a week to conceptualize and film it, and she was also not in a good place at the time. Ultimately, she made the right decision by not releasing it, because she saw how the video could be interpreted and knew what she did was wrong. Let's also take a moment to remember that neither R Kelly nor Terry Richardson (as far as I know) were convicted of s-xual assault. I am in no way pardoning them if they ARE s-xual predators, but if neither of them have been convicted then can we please stop referring to them as though they have? I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,511 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 People are completley misinterpreting the intentions of it and the message behind it. Please can we all take a moment to remember that Gaga STOPPED THIS VIDEO FROM GOING PUBLIC. And when there was the threat of a leak a few days ago, she went to every effort to make sure it never saw the light of day. Evidently she knows how bad this video looks to people. Yes, she made a stupid decision by making this video in the first place, but let's try to remember she only had a week to conceptualize and film it, and she was also not in a good place at the time. Ultimately, she made the right decision by not releasing it, because she saw how the video could be interpreted and knew what she did was wrong. Let's also take a moment to remember that neither R Kelly nor Terry Richardson (as far as I know) were convicted of s-xual assault. I am in no way pardoning them if they ARE s-xual predators, but if neither of them have been convicted then can we please stop referring to them as though they have? i dont even understand how people are saying "the video is about rape" "she gets raped" "shes glorifying rape" when we haven't even seen the full thing, most of you also do realize that TMZ have picked these clips out deliberately so that they can report that she is promoting rape. For all we know, the rest of the video is tame, my understanding of the video was that she goes unconscious in surgery and dreams about HAVING SEX (NOT BEING RAPED) by R.Kelly. The video is clearly an extension of the song which uses a s-xual theme (do what u want WITH MY BODY) to describe how the media treats its stars. There is no insensitivity, no glamorising of rape, no rape-ads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eido 3,676 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think the message is implicit. This video seems to have a lot of meanings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORRORHOLIC 109 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 This is actually a really good article about the R. Kelly situation. I'm pretty sure this is what got people thinking about it all again. I suggest anyone interested in any of this read it, although it's pretty disturbing. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/12/read_the_stomac.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boneknuckleskin 776 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Most of the things you typed are false. First of all, there weren't several s-x tapes that were settled out of court and when the police raided R. Kelly's home they found an unusual amount of adult ****o, not child ****o. The only suspicious thing police found were pics that was said to be an alleged underage female. Secondly, there's no proof he raped anyone nor proof that R. Kelly hung out high schools. Considering how famous he was in the 90's, there would be pics of him hanging outside of these supposed high schools but there are none. No proof he threatened families, sent them in vacations or bought them gifts. And lastly, Sparkle's brother-in-law is a bass player. Also another tidbit Sparkle said she was happy R. Kelly was found not guilty after the verdict was read. Jim (the guy you're quoting) refused to testify against R. Kelly when he was the one who first saw the tape. Also R. Kelly's brother admitted to lying on his own brother and contemplates suicide for breaking the family apart. Just something to dwell on... Don't bother quoting me to refute anything I typed. There's a lot people don't know about that trial. Oh you and your facts. Stop ruining the preemptive outrage and moral panic for all these "tweenaged" armchair psychologists here at GGD! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xzxyyxzx 116 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 It's too s-xual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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