VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I honestly think that it never does any good when fans have access to demos and early versions of songs. First of all the song loses a lot of the mystery it has because in the demo you can hear the process behind the song and the more early-natural vocals. Secondly when the fans listen the demos first they get used them and have issues with the final versions even if they are better or even if they are not. See Aura, Scheisse remix, Alejandro or MANiCURE and Sexxx Dreams. Also the anticipation and the surprise of the album release is lost. I mean think if we had never heard the SwineFest versions of the songs and we had heard the studio versions all at once with the album release, we would have been slayed even more. Finally it gives food to many fans to complain. I don't think that Gaga should let fans listen to early versions of the songs, especially before the release of the album. Fans don't need to know everything and they don't need to have an opiniom about everything when it comes to Gaga's musical effords. Its a mistake imo and this is why noone complained with TFM, because it came out of nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Many demos sound like shÃt, I don't think she'd put them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,107 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Sure, if they leak. But they have no 'right' to have it otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Sure, if they leak. But they have no 'right' to have it otherwise.If they leak its not in Gaga's hands anyway. I mean when she lets fans listen her unfinished material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I agree, it can take away the mystery behind a song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 As a fan, yes. But only because of the slayage in the Aura demo tbh From the persecutive of Gaga, I'd agree that it's probably not a great idea though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxdygxga 3,353 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Fans only really have a "right" per sé to what the artist, i.e Gaga, wants to give them. If alternate versions find their way out, that's fine, but it's not the duty of the artist to provide alternatives. But I do agree that it can sometimes be a bad thing for fans to have access to demos. Aura is a prime example. The finished copy was not well received by many fans, because they already had pre-conceived notions of what the song was and how they it should be, due to the demo. However, the finished copy is what she wanted to present and was her artistic vision for the song (which is the most important thing), and that's what we got when all was said and done. I think it can be counter productive in that, you split your audience - some might like one, some might like the other. If only the finished copy got out, people could take it or leave it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floppy 7,951 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I hate the mystery and wish I could sit in the room as it's produced. Im greedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If I had only heard Dope and not IWBWU I wouldn't of been happy on ARTPOP she seemed to over work a few parts on the songs when finalising them, which meant I kind of liked them more at SF. We have no right though, her work, her choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rogoe 23 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 But it would interest to know how they sound like in developing process :shrug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Fans only really have a "right" per sé to what the artist, i.e Gaga, wants to give them. If alternate versions find their way out, that's fine, but it's not the duty of the artist to provide alternatives. Aura is a prime example - the finished copy is what she wanted to present, and that's what we got when all was said and done.Yes but if the other version hadn't leaked the official version would be much more appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth 90 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I don't think it's right to say that the Swinefest versions caused people to like the final songs less because we heard them first. In my honest opinion (and I know this is shared by some) some of the Swinefest versions were just better to my taste and that has nothing to do with the chronology of listenings. I don't think any of your points are factual, except the anticipation factor that indeed is bigger when you hear everything at once, even though Gaga herself gave an equally rational reasoning with her infamous "cumshot" a--logy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Definitely not. I can never listen to Sex Dreams without hearing those synths that she took out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 No. imo she should only play them backstage once or something. She should NEVER give people the files, or the opportunity to record it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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