Knife 6,897 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Katy Perry makes bubble-gum pop music that's instantly infectious on the first listen; music designed for the masses without discerning tastes. The thing about Katy Perry is that she never claims to be some revolutionary songwriter or musician/singer; she makes fun, mindless pop music not unlike Rihanna and does a damn good job at it. Lady Gaga, on the other hand, isn't about making that 'perfect pop song' and doesn't mind experimenting; the end result doesn't always pay off and her singles are often hit-or-miss with the public. They're two different artists with two different goals; comparing their success is really pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Another useless thread, where other female popstars - who are recently more successful than Stefanie G. - get shade by delusional stans... MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Gaga's songs aren't more self-obsessed than Katy's. It's just she's more of a nerdgeek'weirdooutsider than Katy, so her themes don't relate to the typical American girl as often. Katy Perry makes bubble-gum pop music that's instantly infectious on the first listen But I loved The Fame album and Born This Way songs on first listen, but it took me longer to appreciate Cali Gurl's catchiness or Wide Awake's fine lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 DONATELLLLLAAAA. such art. Gaga's songs aren't more self-obsessed than Katy's. It's just she's more of a nerdgeek'weirdooutsider than Katy, so her themes don't relate to the typical American girl as often. Why do you think that? I don't see her as usually outside the box lyrically. I mean, with BTW totally, but ARTPOP is a lot of typical lyrics, she just didn't play her cards right for this era imo- singles were not a good choice. Another useless thread, where other female popstars - who are recently more successful than Stefanie G. - get shade by delusional stans... This thread is unique. :toofloppy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks. I am a genius. Afterall, people can simply not click on a thread that they are also a "genius" on the topic being discussed. o<(0_0)>o Wow omfg this is so new! I've never seen a Katy and Gaga comparison! Omg thanks for making me see the light now this has convinced me to drop Gagaa and go buy PRISM. Thanks bro. And congratulations to Katy for having ONE emphasis on ONE era where she out sold Gagag. Omg Katy is the new Queen because everyone know's one album is the root of the success of failure of your entre career! OP you are such a genius like omg thnaks for this. Interesting thread. :) :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Sorry, but Wide Awake is more metaphorical and better lyrically than most Gaga songs.Are you serious? Its only one song and I can state you now 20 Gaga songs with more meaningful lyrics, lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Is not so much comparing, but rather a--lysing. And as far as I know, a--lysing something is harmless. By the way, I do agree with most of you post. Katy Perry makes bubble-gum pop music that's instantly infectious on the first listen; music designed for the masses without discerning tastes. The thing about Katy Perry is that she never claims to be some revolutionary songwriter or musician/singer; she makes fun, mindless pop music not unlike Rihanna and does a damn good job at it. Lady Gaga, on the other hand, isn't about making that 'perfect pop song' and doesn't mind experimenting; the end result doesn't always pay off and her singles are often hit-or-miss with the public. They're two different artists with two different goals; comparing their success is really pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Both Katy and Gaga are songwriters, both have a unique image and good videos. Before anyone gets on their high horse about Dr. Luke and Bonnie McKee, remember Gaga has struggled to be a consistent hitmaker without RedOne. Both do best as part of a song-making team Katy is not a songwriter. Katy and songwriter don't even belong in the same sentence without a negative. Katy has a bunch of behind the scene writers to write for her. When she tried to write her own stuff she'll probably get another album like Katy Hudson. JUST SAYING Y'ALL BUT TO BE HONEST I'M NOT REGRETTING SAYING THIS :) ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Katy Perry makes bubble-gum pop music that's instantly infectious on the first listen; music designed for the masses without discerning tastes. The thing about Katy Perry is that she never claims to be some revolutionary songwriter or musician/singer; she makes fun, mindless pop music not unlike Rihanna and does a damn good job at it. Lady Gaga, on the other hand, isn't about making that 'perfect pop song' and doesn't mind experimenting; the end result doesn't always pay off and her singles are often hit-or-miss with the public. They're two different artists with two different goals; comparing their success is really pointless. There should be a psa to state this tbh. :cool: It's so true and I can't get over how many people still compare them when it isn't necessary. Katy is not a songwriter. Katy and songwriter don't even belong in the same sentence without a negative. Katy has a bunch of behind the scene writers to write for her. When she tried to write her own stuff she'll probably get another album like Katy Hudson. JUST SAYING Y'ALL BUT TO BE HONEST I'M NOT REGRETTING SAYING THIS :) You should actually know what you're talking about before you commented. I don't think she's as good as Gaga, but Katy is a songwriter. She does write songs. She's actually pretty good if you like indie pop rock. She has help with her pop music, but so does Gaga. Gaga isn't exactly a lyrical genius without some help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mambain 1 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 While Gaga's songs may not always be that artistic, there is also no denying that she does make some very artistic songs. Just go listen to the production, vocals, and lyrics in "Bloody Mary" of course, there are some genius lyrics (though sometimes you can get mesmerized by a bunch of cultural references which IMO doesn't make a song artistic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They're totally different artists with totally different musical goals. Part of the reason Gaga's lyrics aren't as praised is because she went from making the masses feel good to making the music more about her. It's not as fun hearing someone sing about their own ego tbh. Roar ( while kinda awful lul) was empowering and fun to the listener. Applause was empowering in the chorus, but the verses were like "Oh, Gaga wants our attention. meh." Don't think I do this intentionally but I disagree with this because: 1. Gaga's lyrics were always about herself 2. Katy is also talking about herself many of her songs including Roar 3. Gags is praised for her lyrics 4. Gaga's lyrics make her unique regardless if you like her or not, Katy's make her appealing to everyone so yes their lyrics have different goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They're totally different artists with totally different musical goals. Part of the reason Gaga's lyrics aren't as praised is because she went from making the masses feel good to making the music more about her. It's not as fun hearing someone sing about their own ego tbh. Roar ( while kinda awful lul) was empowering and fun to the listener. Applause was empowering in the chorus, but the verses were like "Oh, Gaga wants our attention. meh." How egomaniac of an artist to write about him/herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 True. But Bloody Mary's lyrics and references, for example, make perfect sense with the theme of the song. Not to mention that the production and Gaga's vocals also complement the overall theme of the song. I think is one of the songs shows Gaga brilliance not only as a pop star, but also as an artist. of course, there are some genius lyrics (though sometimes you can get mesmerized by a bunch of cultural references which IMO doesn't make a song artistic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Don't think I do this intentionally but I disagree with this because: 1. Gaga's lyrics were always about herself 2. Katy is also talking about herself many of her songs including Roar 3. Gags is praised for her lyrics 4. Gaga's lyrics make her unique regardless if you like her or not, Katy's make her appealing to everyone so yes their lyrics have different goals. Targeting. :P 1. They were totally, but they also connected better. They were from her, but were also crafted to be more relatable. 2. Yes, but she doesn't have as many self-specific lyrics imo. 3. She was with TF/TFM/and some of BTW, but that is also when people were kind of losing interest in her lyrics. :P She hasn't gotten as much lyrical praise with ARTPOP at all. 4. They are more unique- even with TF/TFM than most of Katy's. But yes, because they have different goals lyrically it shouldn't matter and the comparisons are absolutely pointless. How egomaniac of an artist to write about him/herself. All artists do, but they have to make their ego connect with people. Gaga's just isn't connecting. She lost the connection and is struggling to get it back. How hard is that to understand? Is there some Gaga complex that makes people unable to admit that she might have flaws musically and that Katy is more successful at pulling people in and capturing their attention with fun lyrics? Prism and ARTPOP came out months ago so this shouldn't even be an issue anymore. lol When Katy has lost the connection her team moves past it fast and moves on to something else. They're excellent at their jobs. I wish Gaga had a better team for marketing and pr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Katy has a bunch of behind the scene writers to write for her. When she tried to write her own stuff she'll probably get another album like Katy Hudson. Katy's lyrics and Katy-Bonnie lyrics have.a unique flavour and personality you don't get in other Dr. Luke songs. Now Wrecking Ball, that's a stock generic pop ballad, could have been sung by Kelly Clarkson or any female. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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