Koreku 2,387 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 What a fantastic read! I'm glad you brought light to this issue. I'd of course like to think that Gaga would obviously not be so close with someone who was like that. It also makes me wonder if he's ever tried to make advances with her o.O lol. As for R. Kelly, I never understood why she chose him of all people to work with. She pretty much resurrected his career for another 15 minutes of fame...but why? She's got to have known what his career initially ended over, I don't think she's that oblivious. It does make you wonder why she would work with them.... I agree. The fact that Gaga has been working with these alleged s-x offenders is just fishy and confusing. And because she decided to work with controversial artists, it screwed up her single, DWUW. You don't deserve a point of view if the only thing you see is you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 What a fantastic read! I'm glad you brought light to this issue. I'd of course like to think that Gaga would obviously not be so close with someone who was like that. It also makes me wonder if he's ever tried to make advances with her o.O lol. As for R. Kelly, I never understood why she chose him of all people to work with. She pretty much resurrected his career for another 15 minutes of fame...but why? She's got to have known what his career initially ended over, I don't think she's that oblivious. It does make you wonder why she would work with them.... Exactly. She can't not know so either she's being ignorant for the purpose of maintaining this relationship or she's read on the allegations and doesn't care. I'm hoping it's the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelitinmybones 0 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I personally really like his work, but if that means women are being taken advantage of and abused i would have a completely different mindset. And I can't believe some people are saying that "so what if he abuses women he still takes good photos." It's hard because there are so many allegations about him, and on one hand that could be because he already takes s-xually explicit photos so people are just jumping into the bandwagon. But there are so many you can't help wonder that it could be true. I just hope that if he is a predator that he is locked up fast and that no body else is hurt by him or his team. This is a really unfortunate situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal 768 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The OP is brimming with good points and I daresay the truth. Gaga could do with so much better photographers, and people without s-xual charges too. Ugh. Smh Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm not gonna lie, I actually enjoy their work together. But my enjoyment of Richardson's work generally stops there. I really like his candids with Gaga, but mostly because he's one of the few sources we have that gives us such an intimate look inside the world that is Gaga- I think I'd enjoy any candid look, Richardson or not. Outside of their work, the allegations really have stigmatized his image to me. Be the allegations true or not, I personally feel very sensitive to those types of issues. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 yup. this guy is disturbing. for some reason Gaga likes him, but that is a personal choice on her behalf - that doesn't mean that her fans have to condone his behavior or be in denial about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 yeah it is basically disgusting how gaga has worked with pigs and pedos like Terry and R Kelly I can already imagine the type of **** they did in the unreleased DWUW video :millie: My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 I personally really like his work, but if that means women are being taken advantage of and abused i would have a completely different mindset. And I can't believe some people are saying that "so what if he abuses women he still takes good photos." It's hard because there are so many allegations about him, and on one hand that could be because he already takes s-xually explicit photos so people are just jumping into the bandwagon. But there are so many you can't help wonder that it could be true. I just hope that if he is a predator that he is locked up fast and that no body else is hurt by him or his team. This is a really unfortunate situation. yup. this guy is disturbing. for some reason Gaga likes him, but that is a personal choice on her behalf - that doesn't mean that her fans have to condone his behavior or be in denial about it. I think fans don't think they're able to appreciate an artist's work but at the same time, not support them and encourage the industry to not employ him anymore. For example: I love Phil Spector's music so much and still listen to it regularly, but after what he did, I would be enraged if his industry continued to let him work and throw money his way. In Terry's case, not only does letting him continue to work validate him and what he's done, but it also gives him the opportunity to continue his behaviour and continue hurting people. I can't understand why so many people here don't take this into consideration. On top of all this - he's totally replacable. I think the main reason why some monsters like his work so much is because it seems intimate and revealing. They're not taking into consideration that his photos are like this because he is the only photographer given access to these candid moments with Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allison M 357 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I agree completely. Especially the fact that Gaga was s-xually abused by men in the industry and knows how it feel, but then she continues to work with someone who has the allegations. You would think that Gaga would see him as another "Swine" in the industry. I would just be worried that Terry would leak pictures of Gaga nude and s-xual like his other models because I wouldn't be surprised if he had taken some of Gaga like that tbh... like if Gaga were to say no to him and stop working with him, would he post picture of Gaga like that to ruin her reputation? Blackmail? I think of stuff like that, but then she genuinely seems to trust him and have a real friendship. And like she said, he was there when she woke up in the hospital, others were not. Maybe it's a true friendship and what he does with other clients is not any of her business? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 I agree completely. Especially the fact that Gaga was s-xually abused by men in the industry and knows how it feel, but then she continues to work with someone who has the allegations. You would think that Gaga would see him as another "Swine" in the industry. I would just be worried that Terry would leak pictures of Gaga nude and s-xual like his other models because I wouldn't be surprised if he had taken some of Gaga like that tbh... like if Gaga were to say no to him and stop working with him, would he post picture of Gaga like that to ruin her reputation? Blackmail? I think of stuff like that, but then she genuinely seems to trust him and have a real friendship. And like she said, he was there when she woke up in the hospital, others were not. Maybe it's a true friendship and what he does with other clients is not any of her business? I don't think this would happen tbh. As terrible as I believe he is - they do seem to have a legitimate friendship. I don't put it past him to do something like this if they had a bitter breakup, however, I'm sure she would have had him sign an agreement that protects her privacy. I think Terry is a master manipulator, but in the end we really don't know the nature of their relationship. He could legitimately be a great friend to her but this doesn't change what he's done. It's something for her to consider. Also, I believe they made plans together to film her surgery and since Terry is the director of the project, he would have probably been present when she woke up due to filming...idk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Gaga is already famous so if anything, it'd be him eating her *** for a good picture, not the other way around. Also, can we stop asking like prudes, get over it, if they weren't sluts, they'd say no. Are you ****ing kidding me? It's s-xtortion. He's (allegedly) been using his influence as a means to coerce young, vulnerable women into performing s-xual favors. They aren't sluts, they're victims. And you know what? Yeah. It's really ****ing s-xist of you. Once again, go ahead blaming the women while you give the man (WHO HAS THE POWER IN THIS SITUATION) a free pass. While you call the women sluts and "completely embarrassing to society". Honestly, your comments on this have been disgusting, not to mention ignorant. I hope no one you care about is ever is put in a position like this- your lack of empathy and compassion would certainly victimize them all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAVE 0 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm not blaming anyone and of course taking advantage of someone is wrong, but if u can say no, then say no and leave the ****ing situation. This is bull****, just because a person doesn't say no or give an indication of not wanting to do it does not mean that they cannot feel manipulated or pressured. In the eyes of the law it is still s-xual manipulation or rape if the person indicates in other ways, and it is irresponsible for a person in a position of trust or a more experienced person to say "let's have s-x, it shall further your career." If the person feels used or uncomfortable with the situation afterwards then they have been manipulated and that is not okay. You may say "well she gave consent at the time." but she has actually been manipulated into giving consent, which is never a valid excuse. Also no-one deserves to be raped or abused or manipulated regardless of their background or whether they sleep with a lot of people. I agree completely. Especially the fact that Gaga was s-xually abused by men in the industry and knows how it feel, but then she continues to work with someone who has the allegations. You would think that Gaga would see him as another "Swine" in the industry. I would just be worried that Terry would leak pictures of Gaga nude and s-xual like his other models because I wouldn't be surprised if he had taken some of Gaga like that tbh... like if Gaga were to say no to him and stop working with him, would he post picture of Gaga like that to ruin her reputation? Blackmail? I think of stuff like that, but then she genuinely seems to trust him and have a real friendship. And like she said, he was there when she woke up in the hospital, others were not. Maybe it's a true friendship and what he does with other clients is not any of her business? Gaga already has nude and s-xual photos out there by other photographers and if he released anything without permission then she'd simply sue him so I doubt she really cares too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 This again? Katy bashing, Gaga flopping and Terry/R Kelly topics should be banned of GGD. I'm not defending him but neither accusing him of something I have no idea of or real proofs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,625 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He's a sick, but savvy sicko if the allegations are true. I read the Charlotte Waters story. If her story is true, he made her sign a release form, took pic of her with her ID, proving she was over 18, and it appears he does this sort of thing with shy, vulnerable young women with little experience in situations like that. Waters went to see NYPD detectives, and they basically said since she never said, "no," charges could not be made against Terry. Also, younger models may not be able to afford the high priced attorneys celebrities have, along with the corporations behind them. He would have to be on his best behavior around them, unless they consent to whatever takes place... Of course, they are allegations... Until he is convicted of something, it is difficult to really know if there is merit in victim stories. There have been cases of people making things up to get big names with lawsuits, but of course, that isn't fair for the real victims if they are out there. Such a fine line when it comes to he said she said, but a huge one regardless. It is very odd how big celebs and even President Obama had no issues working with him despite the allegations. He clips so many shots, he is bound to get good ones in there. However, I'm not a fan of his work. She has worked with far more talented photographers in the past, in my opinion. I don't want to judge, but it makes me sick if corruption is really at play here and abusers need to be stopped. However, money talks. At some point, washing your hands after handling cash is good hygiene in more ways than one. Do your own research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrigouuu 236 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 First of all I gotta say that is cool that u searched and finded some info. And also that u have fundaments. maybe i can't change your mind but i think that Gaga knows who's next to her, i mean that i don't think that she would do that, she's very grown up to know who is she sharing a friendship with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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