Katie14 4,828 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Oh I never connected that.. is there not other things you have to avoid intamcy for though but I see what you're saying But there's a whole group of dancers all staring at her to intimidate her.. I'm pretty sure.. well at least here that action is like "cocksucker" and doing that sign without the mouth thing is calling a person a wanker as an insult [obvscan be using as a joshing but yeah]. Also, she's not gonna get ahead (pun not intended) in anyway but sucking off a dancer who's trying to make it also I think in the clinic scene she was getting an abortion. She specifically said she was at a women's clinic. If she was raped violently she would have went to a hospital. Also, was wearing a diaper and pads around her breasts in the scene afterwards. Women often bleed after an abortion and depending on how far along the pregnancy was, her breasts could have been leaking milk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richaspiss 0 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What on earth are you talking about don't be ****ing rude. gaga's alluded to a dark s-xual history on more than one occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Mouth 322 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Of course she's not gonna actually tell us how she got raped As long as people are respectful of her, I see no reason not to explore the issue. She likes us to explore her music, and she wouldn't discuss being raped unless something along those lines happened. there is a big difference between exploring someone's music and exploring someone's possible rape experience. ​ i'm really not trying to argue or anything, by the way. i guess i just don't understand why anyone would want to explore this kind of issue. rape is such a serious, damaging and touchy subject... and here i am seeing it being discussed as if it's not a big deal to talk about. i don't get it. anyway, just my two cents. this is me walking away from this thread now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresTheDoggo 11 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think in the clinic scene she was getting an abortion. She specifically said she was at a women's clinic. If she was raped violently she would have went to a hospital. Also, was wearing a diaper and pads around her breasts in the scene afterwards. Women often bleed after an abortion and depending on how far along the pregnancy was, her breasts could have been leaking milk. One part of me says she wouldn't do that because she's catholic and her parent are strict Catholics but it could explain why she's such a maternal person and why she's always says to wait to start being s-xually active to fans as well as the Viva Glam campaign too, she has a motherly nature towards her fans but that could all be part of her heritage hey I'm Doggo :derpga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 It's not like reporting it would have helped substantially. Rape culture is so incredibly prominent and it was likely she was in compromising situations in her attempt to move up in the music industry. And it's unlikely people would have helped her recover. sadly this. also id like to add that its not as simple or instantaneous as "oh just report him, go to authorities, dont let this slide" like, i know the op wasn't implying it was easy, but it needs to be emphasized that theres not only a stigma attached to reporting rape, but the shame, the tough emotional process that it takes, i think she was just so focused on making it, and hiding her harsh situation into her work and work ethic that she'd might have not wanted to acknowledge it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedi 3 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 There probably is, ya! That was just one idea that many people had thought. And then with Swine, it seemed more and more likely that she was raped/ or something along those lines! That's also true about the bj sign! I never thought of it that way actually Good point! Yeah I def see what you mean I always connected it to something she did to herself like a d--g overdose that effected her heart or something..cause that would make sense chronologically.. Like to get dropped from her label then s-xually assaulted right after.. w.o.w... That's... terrible.... & seems random (I hate to use that word with such a topic but ), but maybe she's missing out parts in the MTN video. But who knows.. And with this other stuff she brings up who knows I also edited my post saying I didn't think she'd blow another dancer who's also trying to make it in order to get ahead, but it's your own personal interpretation of it I understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Kunst 0 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 there is a big difference between exploring someone's music and exploring someone's possible rape experience. ​ i'm really not trying to argue or anything, by the way. i guess i just don't understand why anyone would want to explore this kind of issue. rape is such a serious, damaging and touchy subject... and here i am seeing it being discussed as if it's not a big deal to talk about. i don't get it. anyway, just my two cents. this is me walking away from this thread now. Rape is a big deal to happen to someone. It's not a big deal to talk about, or it shouldn't be. Victims should not have to feel shame in talking about their experiences, and the rest of us might learn a thing or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegiRey 443 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 How about we NOT talk about it until gaga is ready, it seems a bit rude in a way.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedi 3 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think in the clinic scene she was getting an abortion. She specifically said she was at a women's clinic. If she was raped violently she would have went to a hospital. Also, was wearing a diaper and pads around her breasts in the scene afterwards. Women often bleed after an abortion and depending on how far along the pregnancy was, her breasts could have been leaking milk. You think she put sanitary pads on her own breasts because they were leaking milk? But the first part I see what you're thinking.. though I'm not very informed on abortion procedures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Kunst 0 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 How about we NOT talk about it until gaga is ready, it seems a bit rude in a way.. But she's brought it up over and over. Getting more blatant each time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle 2,056 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 sadly this. also id like to add that its not as simple or instantaneous as "oh just report him, go to authorities, dont let this slide" like, i know the op wasn't implying it was easy, but it needs to be emphasized that theres not only a stigma attached to reporting rape, but the shame, the tough emotional process that it takes, i think she was just so focused on making it, and hiding her harsh situation into her work and work ethic that she'd might have not wanted to acknowledge it. Very true. I am a victim also of rape.I was in my early 20's I never said anything because I was scared.It was someone I knew.I didn't think anyone would believe me because it happened in my house.I was embarrassed..I just wanted to NOT think about it.I didn't want to deal with what had happened and what would come about it. Would I do it differently now? yes, but I can't.It's not easy to just go to the authorities, It's much more trickier... I hope that made sense to people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 there is a big difference between exploring someone's music and exploring someone's possible rape experience. ​ i'm really not trying to argue or anything, by the way. i guess i just don't understand why anyone would want to explore this kind of issue. rape is such a serious, damaging and touchy subject... and here i am seeing it being discussed as if it's not a big deal to talk about. i don't get it. anyway, just my two cents. this is me walking away from this thread now. Why is rape such a taboo subject that it is rude to discuss and talk about in a respectful way? I think rape needs to be talked about and victims need to stop feeling shame and embarrassment. They need to stop feeling scared to report what happened. I think victims have such a hard time recovering because they and the people around them feel uncomfortable talking about it. The fact that this thread is already 3 pages shows that people on here want to talk about it but are afraid to start the conversation. Gaga wouldn't have mentioned it if she didn't want anyone to talk about it. I truly apologize if this thread offended you. That was not my intention at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nissa 51 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 More than 90% of reported rapes end in no sentencing of the rapist whatsoever and if you do go to court, you'll be scrutinized as a ***** for having slept with more than two men in the last 10 years (yes, they "research" your background and use it against you). Women are trained from a very early age to be accommodating to others (to men above all) and to not intrude or cause a fuss even to their own detriment. We are also the subject of incredible amounts of victim-blaming. "She was raped but it was like, 1 AM and she was wearing a short skirt, and she had a beer or two. She had it coming!" Most rape-prevention and awareness campaigns actually focus on inane "tips" for women to prevent themselves from being raped (not even acknowledging that most rapes don't occur at parties with strangers but with people close to you) instead of targeting actual rapists and their twisted notions of consent, continuing the cycle of putting the onus on women when it comes to s-xual abuse. 1/4 women will be raped/s-xually abused at least once in their lifetime yet it's the least-reported crime there is. There are tremendous feelings of shame and then you have the knowledge that the court system will not help you but likely make your trauma worse - all of this prevents us from reporting it. Just a few weeks ago a homeless woman who had been raped and couldn't attend her court appointment (because, duh, she didn't have transportation) was thrown in jail for 2 days in contempt of court. The rationalization behind it? "If she wants to have him convicted, she needs to work with us. She's responsible for future rapes if the suspect goes free." That's the **** women deal with on a daily basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 7,243 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Im not sure if we need to discuss this, since it's so personal and Gaga is obviously not ready to give details on what happened to her. I'm not sure it was rape. To me it sounds like she was being with older men doing things she regretted looking back. She was taken advantage off and it scarred her as a young woman. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 She's definitely a victim of s-xual assault, of some form. It's very evident. Most people do not report rape. They are scared, and have many reasons to be, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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