Should Gaga give more attention to trans* people?

[craig 680]

 

 

 

You make it sound like it's a bad thing.

 

I don't only think most of her GLBT fans want her to mess up her pop career so she can be an GLBT social activist.

 

Half her gay fans would bail for whatever popgirl is "slaying" and all her gay haters will accuse her of exploiting GLBT and appropriating their voice.

[Miel 15,009]

I think more of anything and everything should give more attention to trans culture and peoples. I personally don't think Gaga has an obligation to bring it out into light, but it would definitely be nice.

 

As somebody's mentioned, she's positively and directly mentioned transgendered peoples in Born This Way, and is an avid fan of drag culture and imagery/aesthetic. It's barely scratching the surface, imo, but it's definitely more than a lot of her peers are doing/have done.

 

I don't only think most of her GLBT fans want her to mess up her pop career so she can be an GLBT social activist.

 

Half her gay fans would bail for whatever popgirl is "slaying" and all her gay haters will accuse her of exploiting GLBT and appropriating their voice.

 

This was particularly hard to go through during BTW. She tried so hard to do something good during BTW (and, really, overall), and they just kept taking her down.

[Ladle Ghoulash 20,328]

oh yes because no one is in a loving relationship without recognition of the state, right? don't be daft.

Did you even read my articles? Of course, gay marriage is important. Great. Have fun getting married. BUT IN THE MEAN TIME the campaign for marriage equality has taken vital resources away from campaigns, programs, and organizations with greater importance- like housing for LGBT teens thrown on the street and AIDS organizations.

Of course there are rights attached to marriage. But they only seek to help those who already have the resources. Do you not get that? The kids thrown on the street and the people who need help receiving AZT could not give a shiit about gay marriage. Marriage equality benefits the LGBTQA people who are NOT dealing with poverty, homelessness, crippling d--g addiction, hate-fueled violence, AIDS... all things that are EXTREMELY common in the LGBTQA community.

Once again, go back and read my response about gay marriage. Actually read the articles. Read the words of actual educated scholars, complete with evidence. You have a basic, unchallenged viewpoint that has been cultured by mainstream LGBTQA groups, funded by the wealthiest gays in order to secure the rights that are important to THEM, rather than vital to the community.

Let me leave you with another quote that points out your arrogance:

SOURCE: http://www.bilerico.com/2009/11/against_equality_in_maine_and_everywhere.php

Go back to the last page of the thread and read my articles I linked to. Marriage equality is a classist issue that only benefits the middle class and wealthier.

But I'll leave you with the same quote:

SOURCE: http://www.bilerico.com/2009/11/against_equality_in_maine_and_everywhere.php

Valid point with that quote, but I think it neglects that such a progression suggests the opening of social consciousness that would allow groups with interests to support trans people to come forward and make changes in a world that perhaps now begin to more fully understand them.

I think you're obviously well-read on the issues, but just because you cite scholarly sources doesn't mean you're inherently right and that your conversation partner's points are invalid. I believe that there is validity to both sides if the issue.

But, in all honesty, agreed that marriage equality isn't the most pressing issue.

[Anderson123 37,677]

She has done it in the past. But I just don't see the need to actually focus on the LGBT community when it comes to her music. It doesn't bother me when she expresses something like when she kissed that woman on the Telephone video, or Born This Way. But she's an entertainer, and I don't think she should focus her entire image on the LGBT community. There are a lot of trans singers out  there. Gaga already does so much for everyone outside of her music career.

[Emvee 8,138]

Every time I see a "cis person" try to pay more attention to trans people, the LGBT/social justice community always bites their heads off for being "problematic~~"

 

So, no. I don't expect her to, nor do I really advise her to go into that. They already chewed her out for trying with Born This Way. 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

I want her to give attention to another problem of this planet now, she made a whole album for LGBT community, crisis of beliefs etc. There are many other problems in this world like wars, disease, racism. She can also focus on other artistic things like movie characters, explore other famous and important personalities etc. I think I've had enough of LGBT when it comes to her music. Of course whe will always fight for Gay rights and there will always be references but I think this is enough.

[Rae 86]

This is so extremely ignorant.

ARTPOP didn't flop. It's not like I ever changed my mind on who and what she should support throughout her career. You're acting like her LGBTQ activism is just a phase, and it isn't. Do you honestly consider the very thing that saved people's lives "old and boring"?

I didn't forget about the Applause lyric video. Those are drag performers, not trans* people.

drag performers can be considered Trans* people.  And I was saying what reviews where saying about her performance and they did not like the speeches to only gays.  Get a grip and stop blaming people for your personal issues and situation.  Life is Life. 

[Cas Winchester 195]

It would be cool, but I don't think she should after they way she was treated for Born This Way.

[LaLuna 12,732]

I want her to give attention to another problem of this planet now, she made a whole album for LGBT community, crisis of beliefs etc. There are many other problems in this world like wars, disease, racism. She can also focus on other artistic things like movie characters, explore other famous and important personalities etc. I think I've had enough of LGBT when it comes to her music. Of course whe will always fight for Gay rights and there will always be references but I think this is enough.

 

[tokyodisko 0]

Honestly, career first, because she can reach a wider audience with her message. If she were to bring it up now, only the people who stan for her would hear it and news outlets wouldn't do much to cover it. 

[WheresTheDoggo 11]

Yes

[tokyodisko 0]

I want her to give attention to another problem of this planet now, she made a whole album for LGBT community, crisis of beliefs etc. There are many other problems in this world like wars, disease, racism. She can also focus on other artistic things like movie characters, explore other famous and important personalities etc. I think I've had enough of LGBT when it comes to her music. Of course whe will always fight for Gay rights and there will always be references but I think this is enough.

I would love to hear her touch on other issues as well. Like health care/disease currently. 

the LGBT community isn't the only disadvantaged, struggling community, so I would like to see her improve upon her outreach. Racism might be tricky for her to put into action in some ways. The term cultural appropriation is used far too often now when anyone who isn't part of the group in question shows support for that group. I think the term is bull**** personally, because the majority is the minority somewhere and everyone can be equally culturally appropriated. Cultures giving AND taking from each other isn't a bad thing. 

 

I know some want her to continue with LGBT rights, but isn't like she will stop fighting for LGBTQAetcetcetc rights ever. The bigger issues that effect every group of people would be better.