Princess Die 1,864 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're so antisemic and you make the people here to think that Israel is a third world country, and it's officially NOT! Don't listen to him, he is an idiot and I can say that because he make people think bad things at us! Gaga preformed in Israel in 2009 and the show was great! Just great! You are not a monster cause a monster needs to promote kindness and love to others. The situation here is not as you described here, we know that if we'll accept the palatines they do in the streets bad things and terror, the hate us. You are stupid Can you please DELETE this thread? You made an account JUST to comment on this. Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamember 667 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 She should perform. I think that it will look bad if she cancels a concert in Israel. Especially if people do not educate themselves on the reasoning. I don't believe that all people are the same, but there ARE terrorists present in that area. This inequality isn't at the fault of the innocent people, Arab or Jew. It may be unfair, but there is a reasoning behind it. She shouldn't cancel the concert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotion 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 1. You're a fukin idiot. 2. There is fans wating for her for years, so fuk off. 3. Get some REAL and true education about the place. 4. Know everyone any fan has the right to see Gaga. so edgy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I don't believe that all people are the same, but there ARE terrorists present in that area. This inequality isn't at the fault of the innocent people, Arab or Jew. It may be unfair, but there is a reasoning behind it. She shouldn't cancel the concert. Did you see the map that I posted about the areas that are just being taken from the population that lived there? How many people would NOT fight back when all of the sudden they are just made leave their homes, work, school etc from one day to another with military force forced to live in a camp. Would you be willing to accept that and just pack your bags and leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,352 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 People wanted Gaga to cancel her Russian dates too but that didn't happen. People wanted her to cancel her date in Arizona but that didn't happen. Gaga does not turn her back to a place because of political situation. Instead she goes and she spreads awareness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I agree she should defnitely do something about this, why is equality so hard? tbh Im not well educated on the subject, but all I can say is that terrorism isnt caused by bad people that just want to screw others for the sake of doing it, there are reasons involved, that most of the times means a ****ed up government with ****ed up laws. in other words, if israel doesnt want violence and terrorism, THEN DONT GIVE THEM REASONS TO DO IT but im not sure if she should just cancel, shes not in a position right now where it would be a big deal if she cancels, she should go and prepare something to shut down their use of her as propaganda as you say, make it so israel doesnt get a single image of her that doesnt scream "equality", plus huge statements, promo, probably visiting herself the areas, donating money exclusively to Palestine and not give a single dime to Israel stuff like that oh an the guy focusing on money jst a few posts above, are you high or something? because you certainly are looking kinda dumb now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Privileged in the sense that they have more money than the discriminated population. Privileged in the sense that they have more money That they have more money They have more money More money Money yes bc this is so funny har har har I honestly don't see how one could laugh at this. You choose to ignore everything else and focus on one point, ok. Maybe they would have money if they were allowed to have business's, if they were allowed to prosper, but they are being kept under military control. Money isn't even the point here, it's the countless human rights violations. But alas you will laugh at all this and just move on with your life This, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I agree she should defnitely do something about this, why is equality so hard? tbh Im not well educated on the subject, but all I can say is that terrorism isnt caused by bad people that just want to screw others for the sake of doing it, there are reasons involved, that most of the times means a ****ed up government with ****ed up laws. in other words, if israel doesnt want violence and terrorism, THEN DONT GIVE THEM REASONS TO DO IT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 There are extremely unjust and illegal laws put in place to stop Palestinians from entering Israel. They are being held captive in their own land Israel isn't just doing it to be mean or racist. They have been under constant terrorist attack for decades, like no other country on earth. In other words, there are elements in Palestine and Gaza who consider themselves at war with Israel, so Israel must defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets Party 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Israel isn't just doing it to be mean or racist. They have been under constant terrorist attack for decades, like no other country on earth. In other words, there are elements in Palestine and Gaza who consider themselves at war with Israel, so Israel must defend. You should read this article from The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/20/palestinians-have-right-defend-themselves? I'll quote some important parts for you In fact, an examination of the sequence of events over the last month shows that Israel played the decisive role in the military escalation: from its attack on a Khartoum arms factory reportedly supplying arms to Hamas and the killing of 15 Palestinian fighters in late October, to the shooting of a mentally disabled Palestinian in early November, the killing of a 13 year-old in an Israeli incursion and, crucially, the assassination of the Hamas commander Ahmed Jabari last Wednesday during negotiations over a temporary truce. So after six days of sustained assault by the world's fourth largest military power on one of its most wretched and overcrowded territories, at least 130 Palestinians had been killed, an estimated half of them civilians, along with five Israelis. The goal, Israel's interior minister, Eli Yeshai, insisted, had been to "send Gaza back to the middle ages". True, the bloodshed hasn't so far been on the scale of Operation Cast Lead in 2008-9, which left 1,400 Palestinians dead in three weeks. But the issue isn't just who started and escalated it, or even the grinding "disproportionality" of yet another Israeli military battering (even before last month's flareups, 314 Palestinians had been killed since 2009, as against 20 Israelis). It's that to portray Israel as some kind of victim with every right to "defend itself" from attack from "outside its borders" is a grotesque inversion of reality. Israel has after all been in illegal occupation of both the West Bank and Gaza, where most of the population are the families of refugees who were driven out of what is now Israel in 1948, for the past 45 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello 129 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I've had a read through this thread and I'm still very unclear about the situation. Seems far too complex for Gaga to have time to properly educate herself on the issue. And if she based her views on a quick summary she would without a doubt sound ignorant. I'm sure she will go with "I don't want to let my fans down" and still perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowgynous 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This shit started like, 80 years ago (ok, 60 something) on a really serious level, everyone with any power in the world has tried their darndest to solve it... And you honestly think Gaga can fix it? I do call her a Goddess at times... But I doubt this would do anything. People need to just stop killing and hating and maiming and shit, throw them infinite copies of BTW. (that's gonna help about as much, if not more, than cancelling a show thousands are looking forward to) ((if she'd wanted to do anything she should not have planned one in the first place, cancelling is cruel)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 105,664 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Gaga not performing won't do anything. The segregation etc. might be wrong but that doesn't mean her fans there shouldn't be able to see her just because they were born on the side that is 'privileged'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 866 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Agree! Annie Lennox, artist and human activist is boycotting Israel for the same reason! And her child is half-jewish so it's not any "anti-semitism" or whatever. Many celebs joined the cause & canceled their visits to Israel. Gaga is ready to boycott Russia cause of it's treatment of gays and she has huge number of fans there. Why should Israel be different? There are human rights being violated & she would support that. Except Gaga is not allowed in Russia after 2012. That's not the case with Israel. Being against the apartheid state of Israel doesn't make us anti-Semitic. You are so quick to throw that word around when it comes to any criticism or your countries treatment towards the Palestinians. It is exactly the fact that I am a monster that i care so much about this, maybe you should do the same but i see you signed up just to say this so you tell me who really isnt the real monster. Your last statement is so silly and so prejudiced that i'm not even going to bother entertaining it and can leave people to see it for themselves. Politics should not be mixed with art. Your opinion is very narrow-minded and sometimes even ignorant, any discussion will be pointless. Arabs are semites too and he's not antisemitic. That is your only excuse. Talk to the Human rights watch & united nations about all rules of war which you broke. Even unnarmed people on ships who are bringing aid to Palestinians are being shot to death by your army. There is some good excuse for that too. Are you even aware of what was found on the Mavi Marmara back at 2010?! Like really... get you facts straight! Spreading biased and false information is not cool. 1. You're a fukin idiot. 2. There is fans wating for her for years, so fuk off. 3. Get some REAL and true education about the place. 4. Know everyone any fan has the right to see Gaga. agreed with the bold parts. Rude. If any fan has the right to see Gaga how come that right will be denied to her palestinian and lebanese fans? Even if citizen of whatever country passes through Lebanon & has their stamp in passport he/she does not have the right to enter Israel. What about the rights of that fan? "that fan" will have the right to enter Israel the moment its homeland won't call for Israel's annihilation & won't target its civilian centers with rockets. Simple as that. :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowgynous 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I've had a read through this thread and I'm still very unclear about the situation. Seems far too complex for Gaga to have time to properly educate herself on the issue. And if she based her views on a quick summary she would without a doubt sound ignorant. I'm sure she will go with "I don't want to let my fans down" and still perform. It is so complicated that I have read up about the subject several times over more than a decade and still don't understand squat, despite being 28 year old, a straight A student when it comes to comprehensive reading and being quite up to date about a lot of relevant history for this conflict. On top of it being complicated, there are at least two DISTINCTLY different versions of the "story" that get thrown at you in an alternating fashion depending on who you ask about it and there is just about NO objective info to be found anywhere... I think you are very right to state that Gaga couldn't possibly have time to educate herself enough to decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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