Why Gaga needs to cancel her show in Israel

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Sure, I'm going to do my research on each country Gaga is visiting's history and make up excuses for her not to go there, Oh! Gaga should not tour in the US because of the bombing in Iran!

 

 

 

Leave politics out of the entertainment world, there has been fans waiting 5-6 years for her to perform and it would be absolutely unfair of her NOT to perform in Israel.

 

 

 

She can speak about it and leave her opinion on stage, but she absolutely contributes ZERO support by "canceling" the date, the only result of that would be tens of thousands of disappointed fans.

 

 

 

And by the way, Arabs live in Israel too you know, and MANY Arabs are attending the show, maybe not Palestinians, but lets be real here, how many Palestinian fans does she have?

 

 

 

That's kind of like saying she shouldn't have visited Russia cause of the laws there.

 

If Israel is not a "normal country, then neither is half of Europe and the USA.

 

If you want to discuss this topic, then discuss it in a manner that doesn't include Gaga, because that's just BEYOND stupid & unfair for the Israeli fans.

 

Plus, if you don't live in Israel, you don't even know the half of it.

 

 

Why should we leave politics out of the entertainment world? Gaga herself puts her activism first and foremost and is using her voice to cause change, why should this be any exception? Israel is not exempt from any critique. 

 

This is not about the fans, if the fans truly cared they would understand why Gaga was having to cancel the show, because of their governments apartheid regime against the Palestinians. If they truly cared, one night of entertainment would mean nothing to them in the grand scheme of helping bring about change to their country, most people here agree that what your government is doing against the Palestinians is inhumane, the only way to bring change is by people like Gaga showing that we don't support your governments actions. 

 

This is not about the Arabs, this is about Palestinians , segregation of any people is wrong and immoral and should not be supported or tolerated. 

 

We have to discuss this in regards to Gaga as ultimately this is what the thread is about , whether Gaga should cancel or not. This is not a debate about who is right or wrong. these are are facts that apartheid is being committed within Palestine by Israel and that Gaga should heavily consider what it would mean if she allowed herself to be used as a propaganda tool by the Israeli Government. 

whoooa the amount of intolerant flamebait in this thread that is getting reported..... please answer one another RESPECTFULLY.

Debate the ISSUE, Constructively, and with respect for the beliefs of the PERSON who typed them.

Thank you for understanding.

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Thankyou for reopening. Great advice, we may have differing opinions but the only way to truly understand one another is to discuss it in a mature and respectful way. 

[Jjang 2,262]

Why should we leave politics out of the entertainment world? Gaga herself puts her activism first and foremost and is using her voice to cause change, why should this be any exception? Israel is not exempt from any critique.

This is not about the fans, if the fans truly cared they would understand why Gaga was having to cancel the show, because of their governments apartheid regime against the Palestinians. If they truly cared, one night of entertainment would mean nothing to them in the grand scheme of helping bring about change to their country, most people here agree that what your government is doing against the Palestinians is inhumane, the only way to bring change is by people like Gaga showing that we don't support your governments actions.

This is not about the Arabs, this is about Palestinians , segregation of any people is wrong and immoral and should not be supported or tolerated.

We have to discuss this in regards to Gaga as ultimately this is what the thread is about , whether Gaga should cancel or not. This is not a debate about who is right or wrong. these are are facts that apartheid is being committed within Palestine by Israel and that Gaga should heavily consider what it would mean if she allowed herself to be used as a propaganda tool by the Israeli Government.

Thankyou for reopening. Great advice, we may have differing opinions but the only way to truly understand one another is to discuss it in a mature and respectful way.

But going by your logic, Gaga shouldnt visit half of the countries shes going to because of their political issues and governments actions

[Jjang 2,262]

I'm not saying that. People are not black and white. However, Israel is killing innocent Palestinians everyday. I'm not even from those countries but that doesn't mean I should stick my head under the ground and ignore. Human rights should always be the PRIORITY.

 

Why Gaga is protesting Russia and not Israel? What does this mean? As long as its not a LGBT issue, then doesn't it matter that much?

 

People here are saying Rihanna and Britney Spears etc made concerts there, what they don't understand is Israel can be the modern Hitler soon. They are trying to eliminate Palestinian race. 

 

I don't mind people are thinking differently. But I am really disappointed and sad that people or countries with bad intentions are the ones who are rewarded. We have come a long way to gain human rights, with every minor issue and I don't think any sale or top list chart should be preferred to that.

Gaga is banned from Russia.

If she decides to cancel the show that will absolutely do. Nothing, she has no voice in this department

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But going by your logic, Gaga shouldnt vidit half of the countries shes going to because of their political issues and governments actions

 

 

No other country that gaga is visiting on this tour is committing apartheid against the people of their country right now like Israel is towards the Palestinians. No other country is being boycotted by many major figures such as Stephen Hawking, no one is singling out your country for no reason. Don't you think for one minute that there must be a reason why so many oppose what your government is doing?

[Jjang 2,262]

No other country that gaga is visiting on this tour is committing apartheid against the people of their country right now like Israel is towards the Palestinians. No other country is being boycotted by many major figures such a Stephen Hawking, no one is singling out your country for no reason. Don't you think for one minute that there must be a reason why so many oppose what your government is doing?

 

Just because I want Gaga to come here doesn't mean I agree with what my government is doing, Im just saying she wont achieve anything but disappointed fans if she did that.

And oh please, the fact that shes visiting the USA alone and what THEY are doing in middle east countries is OK, right? The fact that they are helpers and supporters of everything that is currently is happening in Here, and that they're alliance with Israel, that's all OK. Right?

But just because its the US and not israel no one speaks ****.

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Just because I want Gaga to come here doesn't mean I agree with what my government is doing, Im just saying she wont achieve anything but disappointed fans if she did that.

And oh please, the fact that shes visiting the USA alone and what THEY are doing in middle east countries is OK, right? The fact that they are helpers and supporters of what currently is happening in Gaza, thats all OK. Right?

But just because its the US and not israel no one speaks ****.

 

 

I'm glad you don't agree with it. She will achieve something with it , this is the point we are trying to make. If she cancelled the date she would show that she doesn't agree with what they are doing and will not give them any chance to make out that their regimes are supported, even by those who care deeply about human rights such as Gaga. 

 

This is about apartheid  being committed against a countries own people. The fact that you want to focus on other worldly issues like they somehow justify what Israel is doing, is wrong. Stop trying to point the finger elsewhere and realise that crimes are being committed by Israel, and Gaga should not show her support towards it in anyway, whether that be economically or via tourism

[Jjang 2,262]

I'm glad you don't agree with it. She will achieve something with it , this is the point we are trying to make. If she cancelled the date she would show that she doesn't agree with what they are doing and will not give them any chance to make out that their regimes are supported, even by those who care deeply about human rights such as Gaga. 

 

This is about apartheid  being committed against a countries own people. The fact that you want to focus on other worldly issues like they somehow justify what Israel is doing, is wrong. Stop trying to point the finger elsewhere and realise that crimes are being committed by Israel, and Gaga should not show her support towards it in anyway, whether that be economically or via tourism

 

No, a pop star would absolutely change nothing, that would just clear a spot for Beyonce to perform.

 

 

 

But did I lie? demolishing other COUNTRIES is just as worse, people are people. none of these actions support human rights nor equality.

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No, a pop star would absolutely change nothing, that would just clear a spot for Beyonce to perform.

 

 

 

But did I lie? demolishing other COUNTRIES is just as worse, people are people. none of these actions support human rights nor equality too.

 

 

She would bring awareness to the issue and she would stop them using her coming there as a means to say that they are a fair an equal country. She would also not bring economy to that country which would also make a difference. 

 

Regardless of who you want to point the finger at, Israel is engaging in apartheid and trying to pretend like we should focus on other things instead of the apartheid  they are committing is disingenuous to say the least. You  can't point the finger at others like that some how justifies  what you are doing. 

[Jjang 2,262]

She would bring awareness to the issue and she would stop them using her coming there as a means to say that they are a fair an equal country. She would also not bring economy to that country which would also make a difference. 

 

Regardless of who you want to point the finger at, Israel is engaging in apartheid and trying to pretend like we should focus on other things instead of the apartheid  they are committing is disingenuous to say the least. You  can't point the finger at others like that some how justifies  what you are doing. 

 

She would bring nothing but a couple of gay teens discussing on it on GGD and ATRL.

 

 

 

Regardless of what you believe in, you can't point your finger at Israel and forget that what other countries are doing is just as wrong, which by the way, she's visiting too.

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frankly I agree with the OP 

end the occupation

also most Israelis support the governemens zionist agenda, im sure thats influenced in part by mandatory military service

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She would bring nothing but a couple of gay teens discussing on it on GGD and ATRL.

 

 

 

Regardless of what you believe in, you can't point your finger at Israel and forget that what other countries are doing is just as wrong, which by the way, she's visiting too.

 

 

No it would be reported by the media just like every time someone influential chooses not to engage in to contact with Israel until it ends its apartheid  regime. 

 

If you feel like what America does is comparable to what Israel is doing against the Palestinians on a day to day basis, then you should definitely engage in that topic yourself. Because at the moment all it sounds like is your trying to point your fingers at other countries and say "Well they do this so why cant we"  like that somehow justifies it. This is about Israel and the show Gaga has planned there, if you feel like she shouldn't be touring where she was born, then by all means bring that up to her. Just don't try to use that as an excuse as to why she should be going to Israel and lending them her support

[MonsterMum 2,532]

I've said many times what my views over this conflicts are. No one wants to continue the occupation, no one. Please, take a look at my first comments where I explained my opinion before you call me biased.

 

The painting is yet to be done. Many painters, none of them is the only one to blame.

 

My fear is tho, when is the painting done? When the Palestinians are gone from Israel?

I know that the Palestinians have not exactly been angels either but you know what irks me, and that's just me personally.

 

Whenever there's a rumble from the Palestinian side, Israel rolls out the tanks.

 

Gaza is left with no fuel or electricity even with like 3 degrees Celcius. No heat, no running or clean water, sewage still running down the streets. If anything happens there, like the floodings not too long ago, in any other country emergency aid would be rushed in with rescue equipment and medical aid, Gaza gets close to non of that. Left there like rats in a trap.

 

I understand it's a necessity to keep Israel stable as a force but the humanitarian in me cannot turn a blind eye on this. Unfortunately there is no quick fix for this, there is so much damage done on both sides, there is no trust in the other kind at all.

 

You might have seen the other posts here too that were quite agressive and there is no doubt in my mind that in Palestinian homes words of agression are spoken towards Israelis as well. And so we have yet another generation not willing to look past anything. Even amongst themselves Israelians and Palestinians cannot agree on this matter, who killed Yitzhak Rabin again? 

[Jjang 2,262]

No it would be reported by the media just like every time someone influential chooses not to engage in to contact with Israel until it ends its apartheid  regime. 

 

If you feel like what America does is comparable to what Israel is doing against the Palestinians on a day to day basis, then you should definitely engage in that topic yourself. Because at the moment all it sounds like is your trying to point your fingers at other countries and say "Well they do this so why cant we"  like that somehow justifies it. This is about Israel and the show Gaga has planned there, if you feel like she shouldn't be touring where she was born, then by all means bring that up to her. Just don't try to use that as an excuse as to why she should be going to Israel and lending them her support

*I don't think what America is doing is comparable to what Israel is doing, I KNOW what America is doing is actually far worse.

[Jjang 2,262]

Gaga doesn't "need" to do anything tbh. Every fan around the world deserve to have the possibility of seeing her live. Entertainment and politics should not be as intervened. If anything she could go there and speak about the issue while performing, like in Russia. That would raise more awareness than just skipping the country. It would make headlines and make a splash tbh.

 

I really wouldn't call her fans in Tel Aviv the "privileges one in the apartheid" because a vast about of them are LGBT and despite the city having one of the largest gay pride events in the world, there is still massive about of violence toward gay people and especially transs-xuals there. If Gaga refused to perform there, her fans would feel like she's turing a blind eye the the violence they face, and on top of that, because of a decision they did not make, but their government. 

*God bless these posts.

[Noam Zioni 1,196]

You are so ignorant, the Israelis are breaching the rights of the Palestinians and you shame the ones who recognise the scandal as anti-semitic, please.

I'm israelian, I live here, not you... You can't judge the situation before you live it. Almost every single month we here about 2 or 3 cases of terrorism in here, and yes, they are palatines, I don't think that we need to allow these people get in to OUR country, the only country for Jews in the whole world, while you, not a Jewish person, who have many places to go in the world without people hating you. You just can't understand this, so you stan for who you comfortable with to believe. THIS IS NOT ONLY FOR YOU BUT TO ALL THE FORUM HATERS.