goldenrealm 1,238 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Or it could be Gaga take the influence from Redone songs and incorporate it into Venus, It's a possibility though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Or it could be Gaga take the influence from Redone songs and incorporate it into Venus, It's a possibility though I think that is part of it. I mean, he was her mentor in a way on her first album, so it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eamonster123 0 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I feel like its 50/50. RedOne comes up with the beat and gaga adds/removes from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 No. Without RedOne Gaga is lost. Gaga's last biggest hit WW was Alejandro. RedOne last biggest hit was Starships. You spelled BTW wrong. :) Also the fact that RedOne's last produced hit was that generic mess proves a lot. I actually think RedOne is lost without Gaga, she makes smashes and masterpieces by herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 You must not be very familiar with much of his discography aside from the "big hits" which like 90% of music are generic. His work with Kat DeLuna, New Kids on the Block, Space Cowboy, Mohombi, Fipsyde, and Havana Brown all have a great production value and a sound tailored to each group or artist. Certainly he has also done some basic songs, but to credit most of his work's value to Gaga is just ignorant. Even his songs for Nicki Minaj were well made and damn catchy. Just because you particularly may not like a genre or certain artists doesn't mean Redone isn't a talented producer. Gaga would not be where she is without his work on producing her vision. She cannot bring it to life successfully by herself. Bad Romance would have been a muddled mess. If he is given a clear vision of what an artist wants, he can indeed pull it off well. Even if he is producing something boring and typical, the production on the music is top notch. Critics and experts also generally agree that ARTPOP was not very good, so your point about that is?Actually to be honest, no I haven't listened his whole discography and I really couldn't. The fact that all his main works are that Generic proves a lot and no, noone would have rejected a much more fresh production, not even Nicki Minaj. As for the thing you said that Gaga wouldn't have happened without him, maybe you are right, maybe not. We can't really know. Gaga couldn't produce the songs by herself because she is not a producer but I personally think that.with thw guidance of almost any experienced producer she would have made her biggest hits in a very similar way, because in most part they are hers. As for the critits etc, its another thing to judge the quality of on album like with ARTPOP in which case the critics can mess everything up, I agree and its another thing when they say that with RedOne the listen the same beats in every song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Inb4 RedOne takes his face mask off, and it is actually Gaga, lol. Just like in Machete Kills movie, that guy is actually Gaga inside, lmao.It would be legendary! :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyPrince 237 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Slaydy Gaga putting every other musician on the planet to shame. Hew else but the eternal Goddess of Music and Love? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You spelled BTW wrong. :) Also the fact that RedOne's last produced hit was that generic mess proves a lot. I actually think RedOne is lost without Gaga, she makes smashes and masterpieces by herself. BTW wasnt even as big as Alejandro in Europe and South America. Yes it was kinda hug but did not have longevity like her older hits and it vanished quiqly. Here you can see what I'm talking about http://atrl.net/?p=14836239 -Top Singles Artists in Mainland Europe. As you can see Alejandro has 390 , BTW- 219. Well Starships was generic but it was bigger WW than any single from the BTW era except the lead single. In 2012 it has sold more than 8M WW. And RedOne is not lost without Gaga. Maybe its the other way. Gaga hasnt had a top 3 single for 3 years. And she doesnt make smashes by herself. Well if you have lowered your standarts and now youre calling Applause and DWUW smashes, then youre right...I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J U D A S 5 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Redone is an amazing producer for sure. He is the reason why gaga's songs are catchy. I mean in the song Gypsy, i can easily understand that the ( im im im ) part was written by him. Reapting words is actually his magic and it really works on gaga's songs. All i need is more songs that produced by him. In stead of working new producers, she needs to work with him again. She needs to play it safe to win gp back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 BTW wasnt even as big as Alejandro in Europe and South America. Yes it was kinda hug but did not have longevity like her older hits and it vanished quiqly. Here you can see what I'm talking about http://atrl.net/?p=14836239 -Top Singles Artists in Mainland Europe. As you can see Alejandro has 390 , BTW- 219. Well Starships was generic but it was bigger WW than any single from the BTW era except the lead single. In 2012 it has sold more than 8M WW. And RedOne is not lost without Gaga. Maybe its the other way. Gaga hasnt had a top 3 single for 3 years. And she doesnt make smashes by herself. Well if you have lowered your standarts and now youre calling Applause and DWUW smashes, then youre right...I guess BTW has sold much more than Alejandro WW, even in Europe, its a much bigger hit (in ny country Alejandro is the biggest Gaga hit though). And it was my mistake, when I said smashes I meant amazing songs. Its not RedOne the reason Gaga isn't smashing now and you know it, lets not... Applause was a big hit, it was not a smash but the fact it peaked at 4 instead of 3 doesn't mean anything. WMU also peaked at 4 . Redone is an amazing producer for sure. He is the reason why gaga's songs are catchy. I mean in the song Gypsy, i can easily understand that the ( im im im ) part was written by him. Reapting words is actually his magic and it really works on gaga's songs. All i need is more songs that produced by him. In stead of working new producers, she needs to work with him again. She needs to play it safe to win gp back.Repeating words is Gaga's magic, she is the songwriter. Not only Gaga's songs with RedOne are having words repeated, Gaga does it in most of her songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think Gaga definitely brings out the best in RedOne. She won't settle until it's perfect and beyond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It's probably because Gaga has more influence and involvement in her music than a lot of the other people RedOne has worked with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 BTW has sold much more than Alejandro WW, even in Europe, its a much bigger hit (in ny country Alejandro is the biggest Gaga hit though). And it was my mistake, when I said smashes I meant amazing songs. Its not RedOne the reason Gaga isn't smashing now and you know it, lets not... Applause was a big hit, it was not a smash but the fact it peaked at 4 instead of 3 doesn't mean anything. WMU also peaked at 4 . BTW has sold more because of the hype Gaga had after The Fame Monster. She could have released a 4 min song with her farting and it still could have sold milions. The hype sold BTW, not the quality. No wonder why a month after its release BTW ( album) fell off the charts. And I'm not gonna argue with you. You have the receipts in front of your eyes any yet you refure to believe that Alejandro was much much bigger than BTW in Europe. Also at you thinking that Applause was a big hit And wtf is WMU? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalOne 10,771 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I don't think Gaga would just use him as a cover up. It's just that Gaga is way more involved in the creative process of making a song. Others probably just record the song and then go out for food or just sit there and nod as RedOne mixs the song, while Gaga stays in the recording studio for hours and works side by side with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 BTW has sold more because of the hype Gaga had after The Fame Monster. She could have released a 4 min song with her farting and it still could have sold milions. The hype sold BTW, not the quality. No wonder why a month after its release BTW ( album) fell off the charts. And I'm not gonna argue with you. You have the receipts in front of your eyes any yet you refure to believe that Alejandro was much much bigger than BTW in Europe. Also at you thinking that Applause was a big hit I have the receipts and BTW has sold more everywhere than Alejandro and it peaked higher, it IS a bigger WW hit, hype or not. BTW was a bigger hit in my country than PokerFace, which was also huge and much bigger than Just Dance and Telephone. Also Applause will end up around 3M in the US and 5M WW, its not a small number. Don't forget that digital sales are crumbling, the biggest hit this year will have sold WW much less than the biggest hit 2 years ago. Stop underestimating me all the time because it makes you seem dumb. WMU = Wake Me Up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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