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Drunk In Love 1.880.000

:rip: suprise releases are baaaaaaad for singles

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GagaMyBlood95

Yeah, I never expected BBHMM to be on top this long, I wonder if it can actually get decent radio support after this...

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Yeah, I never expected BBHMM to be on top this long, I wonder if it can actually get decent radio support after this...

I don't think so. I think Rihanna's ARTPOP is upon ha

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Arturo

45S only got 112M A.I and that was from support from Pop, Rhythmic, and HAC.
BBHMM is not going to get far on Pop or HAC at all. Rhythmic and if she's lucky, Urban, will have to hold it up on radio.

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GagaMyBlood95

I don't think so. I think Rihanna's ARTPOP is upon ha

​Only if she fires her manager before the album release, goes into crying mode, not release a video for 6 months and then releases a third single.

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chris777

​Only if she fires her manager before the album release, goes into crying mode, not release a video for 6 months and then releases a third single.

​Yeah, that's so not Rihanna.

She did the last two things with TTT and Unapologetic. :rip:

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Whispering

Yeah, I never expected BBHMM to be on top this long, I wonder if it can actually get decent radio support after this...

Probably not on Pop radio. That will come down to callout scores, which for individual stations will start coming in pretty quickly. I could see a high negative score on this song. 

Urban radio will be all over it, though. 

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​Only if she fires her manager before the album release, goes into crying mode, not release a video for 6 months and then releases a third single.

Okay it probably won't be that bad, but I think she'll be hard-pressed to get a number one this era

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​Only if she fires her manager before the album release, goes into crying mode, not release a video for 6 months and then releases a third single.

​Ugh. The era's management was so tragic. I'm surprised it achieved what it did with 2 music videos, pathetic WW promo, and her team falling apart.

Hopefully the next round goes smoothly :)

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chris777

Okay it probably won't be that bad, but I think she'll be hard-pressed to get a number one this era

​If that were the case she would have released something much more pop and radio friendly. Yet, the 2nd single is BBHMM. 

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OBEY

Okay it probably won't be that bad, but I think she'll be hard-pressed to get a number one this era

Rihanna doesnt care, if she wanted that #1 she would not be releasing these songs

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Yanko

Okay it probably won't be that bad, but I think she'll be hard-pressed to get a number one this era

​lol she wouldnt release 45seconds and bbhmm as singles if she wanted a #1 

she enjoys this kind of music imo 

 

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 Pop Girls' Flops Digital Sales Estimates 

Lady Gaga Do What U Wan 1.200.000

Ariana Grande Love Me Harder 1.020.000

Miley Cyrus Adore You 1.020.000

Iggy Azalea Beg For It 730.000

Lorde Tennis Court 640.000

Katy Perry This Is How We Do 540.000

Kelly Clarkson Heartbeat Song 460.00

Beyoncé XO 460.000

Jessie J Masterpiece 290.000

Madonna Living For Love 130.000

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Looking like you are in your early 40s isn't a marketable age for females in Pop. The women in their 40s who get hits, like JLo, look better than most women in their twenties. That's why Pop let JLo in for a while.

What is marketable is looking like you are in your 20s, when you are in your 40s...not actually being in your 40s. 

It's a sad, but true, reality of the Pop industry. 

​Kylie, JLo, and Gwen look better than your average pop girl in her 20's these days. I'd take them over Miley, Ariana, and Meghan. And Gaga and Adele look older than their age.

The problem isn't Madonna's age, it's the average age of her fanbase. It's women who are now 30-55 who made her a superstar, and they don't support new music like they used to (or their tastes have diverged). Once they dreamed of being like Madonna when they grew up, but now as they approach middle age many can't relate to her anymore. Even the youth who discovered her in 1998-2000 are ageing out of music fandom. 

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 Pop Girls' Flops Digital Sales Estimates 

Lady Gaga Do What U Wan 1.200.000

Ariana Grande Love Me Harder 1.020.000

Miley Cyrus Adore You 1.020.000

Iggy Azalea Beg For It 730.000

Lorde Tennis Court 640.000

Katy Perry This Is How We Do 540.000

Kelly Clarkson Heartbeat Song 460.00

Beyoncé XO 460.000

Jessie J Masterpiece 290.000

Madonna Living For Love 130.000

​DWUW shouldn't even be on that list. Same with LMH.

 

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