JustPokeHerFace 2,564 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Most of this "insider info" has been discussed in the US Charts Discussion thread for a while. But it's a logical theory. The fact that Gaga isn't doing as well as she used to in terms of commercial success is already causing backlash, R. Kelly's accusations aren't helping anything. I think we'll get the (a) music video eventually, and it will help the song, but it won't turn DWUW into a smash. It's still a hit song, as was Applause. TBH, I really don't see her getting a smash with ARTPOP, as much as I'd love her to. But I think that if she can get through this backlash from the media and other BS she's had to deal with, things will get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 first of all, Katy is not controlled. she's not in full control of her career--but then again, why should she be? she doesn't know how to manage a music career, neither does gaga...that is not their professions...katy realizes that, whereas gaga apparently doesn't--but she is in control of her career enough. she has a lot of say in the visuals, tour design stuff, etc. she writes her music with collaborators who filter out most of the ****ty lyrics. gaga needs to realize that she should collaborate. she doesn't need to do everything on her own like she thinks. that why her lyrics suck now and her career seems to be plundering and caving in under her. that's why katy and her career are continuing to be successful. she realizes the balances of being very involved in her career, but allowing others in to make sure she and her music are as good as possible. gaga should honestly be taking notes (i can't wait to see the pressed, delusional stan monsters who come rip me apart for this post ) You are obviously a hardcore Katy Fan from the thread you made a few days ago. http://gagadaily.com/index.php?showtopic=79293 I agree with most of the OP. This is just a way for you to bash Gaga. This isn't a Katy Perry fan site. It isn't the place to come when it's dedicated to one artist and since you love another you just come and bash the artist it is dedicated to. You can call me delusional all you want, but you have to be blind to see you are doing just that. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 After the Miley video, I bet the label was highly supportive of Terry. I HATE this bull**** myth that Gaga is always wrong and everyone around her is right. No no hold on I'm not saying Gaga was wrong on this, this isn't a matter to be right or wrong. I'm only saying that judging what Terry has done in the past, a backlash was to be expected. Regardless of whose choice it was to let Terry direct it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Confused at how she ever felt positive about collaborating with R Kelly in the first place. I don't think I'll ever understand that. Not the most feminist move of her career. I really hope the video does get "reworked" and the Xtina remix becomes a video-version? That would be great. Why did Jesus hang out with tax collectors and prostitutes. Not got PR. Same way, I think Gaga has a thing for people who are judged and picked on, even if they have sinned. In love with Judas so to speak. No no hold on I'm not saying Gaga was wrong on this, this isn't a matter to be right or wrong. I'm only saying that judging what Terry has done in the past, a backlash was to be expected. Regardless of whose choice it was to let Terry direct it. When you're dealing with, there is a fine fine between good and bad controversy. WB had good controversy, tons of views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 No no hold on I'm not saying Gaga was wrong on this, this isn't a matter to be right or wrong. I'm only saying that judging what Terry has done in the past, a backlash was to be expected. Regardless of whose choice it was to let Terry direct it. Agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Why did Jesus hang out with tax collectors and prostitutes. Not got PR. Same way, I think Gaga has a thing for people who are judged and picked on, even if they have sinned. In love with Judas so to speak. When you're dealing with, there is a fine fine between good and bad controversy. WB had good controversy, tons of views Yes that has worked out fine because of the shock factor, after the VMA's people were dying to see it. Gaga's shock factor has sailed away, which is sort of good because people realise that she is a great performer and vocalist but in some ways bad because people won't have it anymore. The shock-cup is full. For Gaga to get it on with actually one of the biggest bullies that has recently come back and haunt her and him while she promotes everything against bullying herself is contradictio in terminis and people will love to drag her for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I don't care when the video comes out, I just want to see ARTPOP era developing. Right now, so many weeks have been wasted, and nothing is happening. It's like the era started in August and finished in the beginning of November, and since then nothing has happened.. (not talking about performances though, they were great) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alffy74 53 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 receipts!!! sounds like another fan who tries to impose his views as legit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J e s s e 454 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Kick r kelly to the curb and feature Xtine :kissga: "They have as much in common as dinosaurs and goldfish: the cracker kind!" - Penelope Garcia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner 810 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 actually makes a **** load of sense, i was thinking almost the same. i'd rather have to wait a couple more weeks and have it re-done without r kelly than have everyone bash the video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,890 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It does make sense.... I guess DWUW video -early 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,087 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 So basically there's a chance of the video being cancelled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alffy74 53 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 [insert Whitney's receipt gif]. Stop talking as this person knows so much…all speculations and theories to justify people's own disappointments with the fact that neither the singles nor the album slayed. Get over it. All superstars have peaks and troughs; Gaga is going through her troughs, Get over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar 604 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I think this album and the whole era show a lack of cohesiveness. Honestly, I think ARTPOP is one of the most cohesive album she has made along with The Fame Monster (sound and lyrics). About the R. Kelly controversy, hum yeah that theory sounds pretty reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometoogg 0 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Wheres the user? Has he commented something in this thread? And yass katy ha impact :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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