Tour Schedule & Sold Out Shows (artRave) - $83M tour gross / 74 shows

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Does anyone mind posting the interactive map for the Atlantic City show on here?

 

http://www.ticketmaster.com/lady-gagas-artrave-the-ARTPOP-atlantic-city-new-jersey-06-28-2014/event/02004B86EF19D1A4?artistid=1249444&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1&tm_link=artist_msg-0_02004B86EF19D1A4#edp_isc_display

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Hmm, I'm a little worried that the South Korea date is going to get canceled due to the Sewol tragedy. I've been reading a lot of reports mentioning festivals being canceled and spectators refraining from singing during sporting events. 

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http://www.ticketmaster.com/lady-gagas-artrave-the-ARTPOP-atlantic-city-new-jersey-06-28-2014/event/02004B86EF19D1A4?artistid=1249444&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1&tm_link=artist_msg-0_02004B86EF19D1A4#edp_isc_display

No like the actual photo. I'm on mobile so I can't see it from here.

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Oh idk how to get the photo. Plus I'm on mobile now too so

Hmm, I'm a little worried that the South Korea date is going to get canceled due to the Sewol tragedy. I've been reading a lot of reports mentioning festivals being canceled and spectators refraining from singing during sporting events. 

It's just festivals that are soon probably within the month, I doubt they would cancel a concert that's all the way in August ;)

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Applause wasn't a huge hit in Europe - it was a very frontloaded single which didn't even do that well first-week. Applause was just as successful as DWUW in Europe, although DWUW barely got airplay outside the UK (and it got some airplay in France after it was like Top 5 for a week or two - which was thanks to the Beats commercial). Both songs were unnoticed by regular radio listeners. ARTPOP (album) had no longetivity here, either. She's selling almost all of these tickets based on past hits like Poker Face and Bad Romance.

 

Katy Perry is quite popular here. I think Katy could pull this off:

- 2 dates in Holland, 95% sold out

- 1 date in Belgium, 100% sold out

- 4 (arena) dates in France, 100% sold out

- 2 dates in Spain, 75% sold out

- 2 dates in Switzerland, 90% sold out

- 6 dates in Germany, 90% sold out

- 1 date in Austria, 100% sold out

- 1 date in Italy, 100% sold out

- 2 dates in Sweden (Malmö as a replacement for Copenhagen and the usual Stockholm), 100% sold out

- 1 date in Finland, 90% sold out

 

That's about the same as Gaga's leg - 320k attendance

 

And Katy isn't selling based on past hits? I think her setlist proves that her label know that her catalogue of hits is a big factor is what is making the tour a success. And some of your predictions are way off. 2 dates in Spain, Switerzerland and Sweden isn't going to happen. She'll never sell out four arenas in France and there's no way she'll have as many as 6 arena dates in Germany or sell them out at 90%. I noticed you haven't included Ireland. I think she could do two dates at the O2, but not completely sold out.

 

I'd love to trust you, but I can't trust anybody who says something like this after all the 'yeah the GP still prefers to see Gaga over Katy because everybody knows Katy cant sing' and then afterwards Katy outsells Gaga 8x in Australia and 2x in the US...

 

On the whole, though, the public would prefer to see a Gaga show. Given a choice between the two, you know they'd go for Gaga. I would hardly call Katy's concert attendees the general public either. Fans and casual fans go and there's a lot of kids whose parents go with them, which inflates those ticket sales. The public know that Katy can't sing live, which is why they won't pay money for her shows. That's why, despite all the success she had with Teenage Dream, including getting a lot of the public to buy her album, her shows were never sold out or even close. If her tickets were really expensive, she'd not fill arenas like she does. This is also why she can't do stadiums, just arenas, because stadium prices are too high, as well as the capacity. When Katy can sell out the Stade de France with a $6.3 million dollar gross, then we can talk about her touring power. Gaga has sold out stadiums in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, something Katy couldn't achieve in her wildest dreams. Anyone who has hits on the radio and is playing at an arena in every major city with cheap tickets is going to do well. Let's see if Katy is still pulling in the touring figures that Gaga currently is when she's no longer such a hit with the mainstream. Gaga's currently in the lowest point of her career and yet she's still selling out arenas and I can't say the same will happen to Katy when her flop era comes along.

 

Same with the UK. People said Unconditionally's X Factor performance for sure killed Katy's career there.

Months later, Dark Horse and Birthday are 2 more hits for her and her shows in the UK looked filled to the brim.

 

Those tickets went on sale and second shows were added before she performed on X Factor. If it was after, she'd be lucky to have demand for second shows judging by the reaction from those who had already bought tickets/were thinking of buying them. And ok, Dark Horse was a hit (never expected that, to be honest as it doesn't seem to be the type of music we want right now), but Birthday sure isn't. It's #20 on itunes now because she's touring here, but I'd hardly call that a hit especially considering how low single sales are right now. She's only had 1 #1 and 1 top ten this era, with Unconditionally missing the top 20 altogether. Last era, she had 2 #1's and 5 top tens. As you can see, without promo, she struggles and she tends not to promote in the UK outwith the lead singles, which could also explain why she's never had a UK #1 that wasn't a lead single (or lead single from a re-release). It may not look like it, but she is slowly fading here.

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Can we please keep the katy comparisons aside?

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Can we please keep the katy comparisons aside?

It wouldn't be a thread without the comparisons.  ;) 

Edited May 22, 2014 by Stefani328

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If Gaga outsells KP overall, doubsters should not join us for celebrating it. :later:

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And Katy isn't selling based on past hits? I think her setlist proves that her label know that her catalogue of hits is a big factor is what is making the tour a success. And some of your predictions are way off. 2 dates in Spain, Switerzerland and Sweden isn't going to happen. She'll never sell out four arenas in France and there's no way she'll have as many as 6 arena dates in Germany or sell them out at 90%. I noticed you haven't included Ireland. I think she could do two dates at the O2, but not completely sold out.

 

 

On the whole, though, the public would prefer to see a Gaga show. Given a choice between the two, you know they'd go for Gaga. I would hardly call Katy's concert attendees the general public either. Fans and casual fans go and there's a lot of kids whose parents go with them, which inflates those ticket sales. The public know that Katy can't sing live, which is why they won't pay money for her shows. That's why, despite all the success she had with Teenage Dream, including getting a lot of the public to buy her album, her shows were never sold out or even close. If her tickets were really expensive, she'd not fill arenas like she does. This is also why she can't do stadiums, just arenas, because stadium prices are too high, as well as the capacity. When Katy can sell out the Stade de France with a $6.3 million dollar gross, then we can talk about her touring power. Gaga has sold out stadiums in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, something Katy couldn't achieve in her wildest dreams. Anyone who has hits on the radio and is playing at an arena in every major city with cheap tickets is going to do well. Let's see if Katy is still pulling in the touring figures that Gaga currently is when she's no longer such a hit with the mainstream. Gaga's currently in the lowest point of her career and yet she's still selling out arenas and I can't say the same will happen to Katy when her flop era comes along.

 

 

Those tickets went on sale and second shows were added before she performed on X Factor. If it was after, she'd be lucky to have demand for second shows judging by the reaction from those who had already bought tickets/were thinking of buying them. And ok, Dark Horse was a hit (never expected that, to be honest as it doesn't seem to be the type of music we want right now), but Birthday sure isn't. It's #20 on itunes now because she's touring here, but I'd hardly call that a hit especially considering how low single sales are right now. She's only had 1 #1 and 1 top ten this era, with Unconditionally missing the top 20 altogether. Last era, she had 2 #1's and 5 top tens. As you can see, without promo, she struggles and she tends not to promote in the UK outwith the lead singles, which could also explain why she's never had a UK #1 that wasn't a lead single (or lead single from a re-release). It may not look like it, but she is slowly fading here.

Stop using the California Dreams Tour for comparision.

And yeah, Katy does have touring power. She could've easily done 6 stadium shows in Australia instead of 29 arenas, while Gaga fails to sell out 4.

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Stop using the California Dreams Tour for comparision.

And yeah, Katy does have touring power. She could've easily done 6 stadium shows in Australia instead of 29 arenas, while Gaga fails to sell out 4.

Gaga has 2 more dates in Australia.

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Gaga has 2 more dates in Australia.

Not confirmed. Still nothing in Ticketek (ticket seller for Gaga's tour here). Hope it will happen, but at the moment still only 4 shows.

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Is there a change Gaga may add a date or two in other major cities of France, namely Lyon, Montpellier or Nice?

I'm happy she's performing at the Bercy, but it's really weird that she's doing 2 shows in Paris, and then another show at a larger venue after about almost a month.

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Is there a change Gaga may add a date or two in other major cities of France, namely Lyon, Montpellier or Nice?

I'm happy she's performing at the Bercy, but it's really weird that she's doing 2 shows in Paris, and then another show at a larger venue after about almost a month.

That would be AWESOME, the Montpellier Arena is waiting to be slayed hard.

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Ouch. Isnt the Target Center in Minneapolis smaller? She should've booked that.

I was at this show. Every section was full, except for those back top sections that were curtained off.