JPM 781 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) I definitely agree with you guys and I tried to be realistic and I think this is how Lady Gaga's EU dates should be like in 2015: Zagreb - Croatia - Arena Zagreb (a show for South-Eastern Europe) - 16k people Rome - Italy - Stadio Olimpico (Gaga's neved performed in Rome before) - 55k people Montpellier - France - Parl&Suites Arena (a date for South France) - 12k people Barcelona - Spain - Palau Sant Jordi (2nd show for Barcelona due to the success of the first one) - 17k people Madrid - Spain - Madrid Arena (it's a small arena, Gaga will definitely sell it out + ARTPOP is quite big in Spain) - 12k people Dublin - Ireland - The O2 - 13k people Glasgow - Scotland - The Hydro x2 - 28k people Manchester - England - Phones 4U Arena x2 - 30k people Birmingham - England - NIA x2 - 30k people London - England - Twickenham Stadium (instead of doing multiple dates at the O2) - 55k people Amsterdam - The Netherlands - Ziggo Dome - 14k people Antwerpen - Belgium - Sportpaleis - 14k people Paris - France - Stade de France (since the French dates for 2014 were tragically handled) - 70k people Munich - Germany - Olympiahalle X2 - 24k people Stockholm - Sweden - Friends Arena (the date for 2014 sold out pretty quickly and it would be no problem to sell the indoor stadium) - 45k people Helsinki - Finland - Olympic Stadium (the demand for a Finnish date is very big and a lot of people from Eastern Europe could go, too) - 42k people Edited April 12, 2014 by joe71941 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) I definitely agree with you guys and I tried to be realistic and I think this is how Lady Gaga's EU dates should be like in 2015: Zagreb - Croatia - Arena Zagreb (a show for South-Eastern Europe) - 16k people Rome - Italy - Stadio Olimpico (Gaga's neved performed in Rome before) - 55k people Montpellier - France - Parl&Suites Arena (a date for South France) - 12k people Barcelona - Spain - Palau Sant Jordi (2nd show for Barcelona due to the success of the first one) - 17k people Madrid - Spain - Madrid Arena (it's a small arena, Gaga will definitely sell it out + ARTPOP is quite big in Spain) - 12k people Dublin - Ireland - The O2 - 13k people Glasgow - Scotland - The Hydro x2 - 28k people Manchester - England - Phones 4U Arena x2 - 30k people Birmingham - England - NIA x2 - 30k people London - England - Twickenham Stadium (instead of doing multiple dates at the O2) - 55k people Amsterdam - The Netherlands - Ziggo Dome - 14k people Antwerpen - Belgium - Sportpaleis - 14k people Paris - France - Stade de France (since the French dates for 2014 were tragically handled) - 70k people Munich - Germany - Olympiahalle X2 - 24k people Stockholm - Sweden - Friends Arena (the date for 2014 sold out pretty quickly and it would be no problem to sell the indoor stadium) - 45k people Helsinki - Finland - Olympic Stadium (the demand for a Finnish date is very big and a lot of people from Eastern Europe could go, too) - 42k people That's great :) However... I'm french and I can tell you that she's unable to play at Stade de France this time because she really lost popularity here... :( Maybe 1 or 2 dates in Bercy and a date in Lyon would be great ! A stadium in Stockholm would be great too but why not the Tele2 Arena which can hold 45k ? She can do a sold-out show with it. And I hope she will do the PGE Arena Gdansk in Poland, a little and beautiful stadium Edited April 12, 2014 by Rainbow Unicorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,287 Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Guys, I'm going to remove the Istanbul date. It was removed off Wikipedia ages ago and if even they've decided it's not credible enough to print (that Israel date appeared and re-appeared after all), that must mean it isn't true. Wouldn't ticket information be available by now if it was a real date? Yes. Honestly, Gaga should be doing Katy's U.K tour and Katy should be doing Gaga's. Gaga could easily sell out the 16 shows Katy is doing, maybe the Northern Ireland shows would be a bit of a struggle, but the other 14 would sell easily. Preach it. And if Katy had released her intial UK dates after her X Factor performance of Unconditionally, there would have been absolutely no demand for second dates. Seriously, the amount of negativity that poured in after that from disgruntled ticket buyers and those who were considering buying tickets...So, she got lucky timing. But her next tour is going to see her really struggle in the UK because of what happened. And for the record, her second shows are apparently struggling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM 781 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 That's great :) However... I'm french and I can tell you that she's unable to play at Stade de France this time because she really lost popularity here... :( Maybe 1 or 2 dates in Bercy and a date in Lyon would be great ! A stadium in Stockholm would be great too but why not the Tele2 Arena which can hold 45k ? She can do a sold-out show with it. And I hope she will do the PGE Arena Gdansk in Poland, a little and beautiful stadium But I thought Bercy was closed for renovations, if it's not, then Gaga definitely can do 2 (or even 3) dates there. I don't really think there would be a difference if it's the Tele2 or Friends Arena, the capacities are pretty much identical for concerts. I've always wanted her to do a show in Gdansk but I'm not sure if she can pull it off. I'm also not sure if she can pull off shows in Amsterdam and Antwerp in 2015. Maybe a date in Zurich would be wiser instead of going back to those cities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) But I thought Bercy was closed for renovations, if it's not, then Gaga definitely can do 2 (or even 3) dates there. I don't really think there would be a difference if it's the Tele2 or Friends Arena, the capacities are pretty much identical for concerts. I've always wanted her to do a show in Gdansk but I'm not sure if she can pull it off. I'm also not sure if she can pull off shows in Amsterdam and Antwerp in 2015. Maybe a date in Zurich would be wiser instead of going back to those cities. Actually, Tele2 Arena capacity for concerts is 45k and Friends Arena is 65k (according to their website). This is sooooo big Looks like an North American stadium :) She can go to Belgium but a new arena has opened in the capital, Brussels : Paleis 12, which can holds 15k :) Edited April 12, 2014 by Rainbow Unicorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga98 8 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm still not over the fact that she went from doing 14 sold out shows in Aus to 4 struggling shows in Aus Not even a 2nd Melbourne and Sydney date Thats what happens when you don't promote! She should've added a Brooklyn and Chicago date. yeah and an East Rutherford/Newark, NJ date. Its much needed. She should've added a Brooklyn and Chicago date. yeah and an East Rutherford/Newark, NJ date. Its much needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 But I thought Bercy was closed for renovations, if it's not, then Gaga definitely can do 2 (or even 3) dates there. I don't really think there would be a difference if it's the Tele2 or Friends Arena, the capacities are pretty much identical for concerts. I've always wanted her to do a show in Gdansk but I'm not sure if she can pull it off. I'm also not sure if she can pull off shows in Amsterdam and Antwerp in 2015. Maybe a date in Zurich would be wiser instead of going back to those cities. She doesn't need to go to Bercy to play an arena in France. The perfectly sized Park&Suites Arena in Montpellier and Halle Tony Garnier in Lyon are perfect for Gaga. I wish she would've done those 2 arenas on Ocober 30th and October 31st instead of the small Zenith. She would've grossed twice as much.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM 781 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Actually, Tele2 Arena capacity for concerts is 45k and Friends Arena is 65k (according to their website). This is sooooo big Looks like an North American stadium :) She can go to Belgium but a new arena has opened in the capital, Brussels : Paleis 12, which can holds 15k :) Well, I guess this is even more realistic then. 1. ZAGREB – CROATIA – ARENA ZAGREB 2. ROME – ITALY – STADIO OLIMPICO 3. MONTPELLIER – FRANCE – PARK&SUITES ARENA 4. BARCELONA – SPAIN – PALAU SANT JORDI 5. MADRID – SPAIN – MADRID ARENA 6. DUBLIN – IRELAND – THE O2 7. GLASGOW – SCOTLAND – THE HYDRO 8. GLASGOW – SCOTLAND – THE HYDRO 9. MANCHESTER – ENGLAND – PHONES 4U ARENA 10. MANCHESTER – ENGLAND – PHONES 4U ARENA 11. BIRMINGHAM – ENGLAND – NATIONAL INDOOR ARENA 12. BIRMINGHAM – ENGLAND – NATIONAL INDOOR ARENA 13. LONDON – ENGLAND – TWICKENHAM STADIUM 14. BRUSSELS – BELGIUM – PALEIS 12 15. PARIS – FRANCE – BERCY 16. PARIS – FRANCE – BERCY 17. LYON – FRANCE – HALLE TONY GARNIER 18. MUNICH – GERMANY – OLYMPIAHALLE 19. MUNICH – GERMANY – OLYMPIAHALLE 20. GDANKS – POLAND – PGE ARENA GDANSK 21. STOCKHOLM – SWEDEN – TELE2 ARENA 22. HELSINKI – FINLAND – HELSINKI OLYMPIC STADIUM She doesn't need to go to Bercy to play an arena in France. The perfectly sized Park&Suites Arena in Montpellier and Halle Tony Garnier in Lyon are perfect for Gaga. I wish she would've done those 2 arenas on Ocober 30th and October 31st instead of the small Zenith. She would've crossed twice as much.. she can do bercy + montpellier and lyon, tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I definitely agree with you guys and I tried to be realistic and I think this is how Lady Gaga's EU dates should be like in 2015: Zagreb - Croatia - Arena Zagreb (a show for South-Eastern Europe) - 16k people Rome - Italy - Stadio Olimpico (Gaga's neved performed in Rome before) - 55k people Montpellier - France - Parl&Suites Arena (a date for South France) - 12k people Barcelona - Spain - Palau Sant Jordi (2nd show for Barcelona due to the success of the first one) - 17k people Madrid - Spain - Madrid Arena (it's a small arena, Gaga will definitely sell it out + ARTPOP is quite big in Spain) - 12k people Dublin - Ireland - The O2 - 13k people Glasgow - Scotland - The Hydro x2 - 28k people Manchester - England - Phones 4U Arena x2 - 30k people Birmingham - England - NIA x2 - 30k people London - England - Twickenham Stadium (instead of doing multiple dates at the O2) - 55k people Amsterdam - The Netherlands - Ziggo Dome - 14k people Antwerpen - Belgium - Sportpaleis - 14k people Paris - France - Stade de France (since the French dates for 2014 were tragically handled) - 70k people Munich - Germany - Olympiahalle X2 - 24k people Stockholm - Sweden - Friends Arena (the date for 2014 sold out pretty quickly and it would be no problem to sell the indoor stadium) - 45k people Helsinki - Finland - Olympic Stadium (the demand for a Finnish date is very big and a lot of people from Eastern Europe could go, too) - 42k people no stadiums in countries she visited before because its clear that in Europe it isnt that kind of demand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake 7,385 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Katy visited Australia 3 times with promo this era. She actually only visited twice, once for album promo, and a quick promo trip for the tour announcement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I definitely agree with you guys and I tried to be realistic and I think this is how Lady Gaga's EU dates should be like in 2015: Zagreb - Croatia - Arena Zagreb (a show for South-Eastern Europe) - 16k people Rome - Italy - Stadio Olimpico (Gaga's neved performed in Rome before) - 55k people Montpellier - France - Parl&Suites Arena (a date for South France) - 12k people Barcelona - Spain - Palau Sant Jordi (2nd show for Barcelona due to the success of the first one) - 17k people Madrid - Spain - Madrid Arena (it's a small arena, Gaga will definitely sell it out + ARTPOP is quite big in Spain) - 12k people Dublin - Ireland - The O2 - 13k people Glasgow - Scotland - The Hydro x2 - 28k people Manchester - England - Phones 4U Arena x2 - 30k people Birmingham - England - NIA x2 - 30k people London - England - Twickenham Stadium (instead of doing multiple dates at the O2) - 55k people Amsterdam - The Netherlands - Ziggo Dome - 14k people Antwerpen - Belgium - Sportpaleis - 14k people Paris - France - Stade de France (since the French dates for 2014 were tragically handled) - 70k people Munich - Germany - Olympiahalle X2 - 24k people Stockholm - Sweden - Friends Arena (the date for 2014 sold out pretty quickly and it would be no problem to sell the indoor stadium) - 45k people Helsinki - Finland - Olympic Stadium (the demand for a Finnish date is very big and a lot of people from Eastern Europe could go, too) - 42k people No, not another Antwerp show, it's not doing so well tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkmytears 2,332 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 San Antonio is a city primarily made up of Hispanics, who have less money than white/Asian people so the tickets might be a little bit too expensive, although I do expect lots of tickets to be sold in the last few weeks. this is such a racist and sweeping statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It's really interesting to see Live Nation's approach to tour dates when compared to AEG Live's approach to tour dates. LiveNation obviously doesn't mind that Gaga and Beyonce play in festivals that won't count in the tour's overall gross. On the other hand, AEG Live cares that Katy only tours in places where the tour gross will be counted which is why, out of her 104 dates so far, she's not doing a festival. It truly says a lot.. music not the bling Katy didn't even visit Australia that often... like once? and that was after Roar had already been #1 for like 8 weeks wut she went before the album release, then went again before the end of the year and visited again last week It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,026 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 she could do both Zagreb and Belgrade in 2015 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,772 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 this is such a racist and sweeping statement. It's true 51% of San Antonio is Hispanic, and their average income is ~1,6x lower than Asians for example. How is that racist when I'm just stating geographic facts? Is it racist too, to say Gaga shouldn't tour in Africa because people there can't afford tickets, or that she shouldn't go to Islamic regions because they're more conservative and the date would very likely be cancelled? Or is it also racist and s-xist and ageist to say Katy's fanbase is primarily made up of white teen girls, and is it homophobic to say that a lot of Gaga's fans are gay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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