Luc 4,775 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The public doesn't use ARTPOP They're more here for Venus than that well yes, but truth is, only people who like Gaga enough to give the album know about songs such as ARTPOP, Venus and Gypsy. I don't think that iTunes sales and such are a good indicator of what the General Public actually likes. People who like Gaga anyways are more likely to like ( like my post?) songs such as Gypsy and Sexxx Dreams because they're typical Gaga songs, and look a little bit like previous songs such as The Edge of Glory and Marry the Night. At least, that's what I think. How is the iTunes position a good representation of the GP if most of those sales are from casual fans? And yaaas Venus, ARTPOP and Aura the holy trinity of ARTPOP single #4, #3 and #5 respectively How big of a mess and meltdown is this thread? You're so 2000 and late Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfSpain 8,318 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 This thread has turned into an ARTPOP discussion more than a Charts discussion thread. Hasn't been one for a month The shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The public doesn't use ARTPOP They're more here for Venus than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 its actually good now Venus is my favourite from ARTPOP so i dont mind!!!! Thank gawd. I hated it before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 well yes, but truth is, only people who like Gaga enough to give the album know about songs such as ARTPOP, Venus and Gypsy. I don't think that iTunes sales and such are a good indicator of what the General Public actually likes. People who like Gaga anyways are more likely to like ( like my post?) songs such as Gypsy and Sexxx Dreams because they're typical Gaga songs, and look a little bit like previous songs such as The Edge of Glory and Marry the Night. At least, that's what I think. How is the iTunes position a good representation of the GP if most of those sales are from casual fans? And yaaas Venus, ARTPOP and Aura the holy trinity of ARTPOP single #4, #3 and #5 respectively You're so 2000 and late I didn't say the iTunes position was an indicator Programmers aren't going to add a song about "hybrids withstanding these things" to their playlists but they sure would add one with lyrics like "I don't wanna be alone forever but I can be tonight" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani 25 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I didn't say the iTunes position was an indicator Programmers aren't going to add a song about "hybrids withstanding these things" to their playlists but they sure would add one with lyrics like "I don't wanna be alone forever but I can be tonight i understand but who would've thought a song about IV's, fame, gongs, koons and pop culture would be such a hit. If the songs good it would do fine regardless unless it has crappy execution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 You're so 2000 and late I got that boom boom boom boo :derpga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I didn't say the iTunes position was an indicator Programmers aren't going to add a song about "hybrids withstanding these things" to their playlists but they sure would add one with lyrics like "I don't wanna be alone forever but I can be tonight" Just like they don't add a song about "one second I'm a Koons then suddenly the Koons is me" or "Pop Culture was in Art now Art's in Pop Culture in me" right? And didn't most of you guys say DWUW would smash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Just like they don't add a song about "one second I'm a Koons then suddenly the Koons is me" or "Pop Culture was in Art now Art's in Pop Culture in me" right? Radio had to play Applause. It was Top 5 on iTunes at the time despite lukewarm reception at first. The next few singles aren't going to be magically in the Top 5 prompting radios to add them to their playlists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yall don't understand that Radio won't give songs like ARTPOP and Venus a chance to begin with ... How are the songs going to smash ? With a weird video and no radio exposure ? Applause that is generic as **** peaked at 130M AI ... Katy's avarage peak on radio is 100M AI ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Just like they don't add a song about "one second I'm a Koons then suddenly the Koons is me" or "Pop Culture was in Art now Art's in Pop Culture in me" right? And didn't most of you guys say DWUW would smash? *They censored that line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Radio had to play Applause. It was Top 5 on iTunes at the time despite lukewarm reception at first. The next few singles aren't going to be magically in the Top 5 prompting radios to add them to their playlists. Exactly .. If Applause was out of top 10 on Itunes It would've peaked at 55M Ai. . . It took the song being stable in top 5 for 10 days for the radio to start giving it a chance again ... DWUW was about to go top 10, let's not act like like the song flopped from Itself .. And another question is that the song can still go top 10... And just because a radio friendly song is flopping doesn't mean that Venus will slay, It means that Gaga has no chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yall don't understand that Radio won't give songs like ARTPOP and Venus a chance to begin with ... How are the songs going to smash ? With a weird video and no radio exposure ? Applause that is generic as **** peaked at 130M AI ... Katy's avarage peak on radio is 100M AI ... *This. but 130.8m AI is very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Exactly .. If Applause was out of top 10 on Itunes It would've peaked at 55M Ai. . . It took the song being stable in top 5 for 10 days for the radio to start giving it a chance again ... DWUW was about to go top 10, let's not act like like the song flopped from Itself .. And another question is that the song can still go top 10... And just because a radio friendly song is flopping doesn't mean that Venus will slay, It means that Gaga has no chance. It means that GenericGa stands no chance. Applause may have been generic, but it still felt experimental in some way. Perhaps because it was released at the same time as songs such as Roar and Wrecking Ball, but it doesn't feel generic which DWUW does. And radio isn't the reason DWUW is pretty much flopping. The video isn't either, look at Unconditionally's video effect. The promo isn't either, she performed the song 4 times in the UK and 3 times in the US and also had a commercial air in the US. Radio isn't the reason DWUW's underperforming so much; it's Top 10 on radio, but like #31 on Pop bars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 POP 7 8 LADY GAGA Do What U Want f/R. ... 8170 8060 110 50.369 +15 Spins -5 Bullet -0.143 Audience HAC 30 29 LADY GAGA Do What U Want f/R. ... 754 692 62 3.908 -9 Spins -22 Bullet -0.124 Audience Rhythmic 13 13 LADY GAGA Do What U Want f/R. ... 2728 2444 284 13.181 +4 Spins -21 Bullet -0.052 Audience ______________________________ POP 17 19 LADY GAGA Applause 4416 5004 -588 37.226 -72 Spins +39 Bullet -0.204 Audience HAC 19 20 LADY GAGA Applause 1470 1611 -141 11.578 -13 Spins +15 Bullet +0.072 Audience slay POP 20 22 KATY PERRY Roar 4327 4494 -167 31.784 +124 Spins +236 Bullet +0.330 Audience HAC 9 9 KATY PERRY Roar 3165 3498 -333 23.095 +2 Spins +69 Bullet -0.078 Audience AC 4 1 KATY PERRY Roar 1158 559 599 9.479 +1 Pos +244 Spins +255 Bullet +2.159 Audience ______________________________ POP 28 21 KATY PERRY Dark Horse 4379 3220 1159 33.910 +119 Spins -144 Bullet +0.369 Audience ______________________________ POP 15 20 KATY PERRY Unconditionally 4412 6331 -1919 19.922 -187 Spins +262 Bullet -0.689 Audience HAC 7 6 KATY PERRY Unconditionally 3583 3591 -8 25.510 -20 Spins -45 Bullet -0.290 Audience AC 34 29 KATY PERRY Unconditionally 189 165 24 0.867 +1 Pos +23 Spins +25 Bullet +0.196 Audience slaaaaay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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