Bt1 5,213 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Oh, in regards to the music. ARTPOP is not a bad album. But it was overhyped, again by Gaga herself. When you tell people over and over how amazingly innovative and great you are, they push back unless you OVERdeliver. By the way, speaking as someone connected to her world, the reason why most of her early songs are still considered the best - they were written by Gaga on piano and THEN re-worked into tracks. They were organic to begin with. Some of BTW and pretty much most of ARTPOP imo, was written over tracks. There is a big difference when that happens. There is a slight disconnect in Gaga's case because she grew up as such a pianist/singer. You can see the differences in her acoustic performances of songs starting with BTW because she was taking those songs and THEN making them acoustic, not the other way around like before. That's why PF was so amazing on piano and got her so many fans - it was an organic song written acoustically first and then made into a pop tune. Poker face accoustic sounds to me as organic and amazing as Hair, Born this way, The edge of glory, You and I, Gypsy. That part of her is still there. Of course there is another part of her as songwriter where you can put songs like heavy metal lover, scheisse and a lot from ARTPOP. The music isnt the problem. Thats all I wanted to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 5 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Saw this on twitter ... I can't help but laugh LOL ... LMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 light red for DWUW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 15,354 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Another red update... whyyy? :emo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Gaga must be too busy doing stuff with Taylor. I don't like when she wrote us anything on Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Saw this on twitter ... I can't help but laugh LOL ... :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady 748 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 What makes me sad after this amazing post by itaita is the fact that almost everyone who Gaga used to work with before are now gone. Like...why? Why did she start to have different understandings when everything she did with her team during TF and TFM seemed perfect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarryNight 10,106 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 WB coming :snowmess: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog 1,921 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 We need Dada back. Been saying this since 2010. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 What makes me sad after this amazing post by itaita is the fact that almost everyone who Gaga used to work with before are now gone. Like...why? Why did she start to have different understandings when everything she did with her team during TF and TFM seemed perfect... Most of the people were there for BTW era and the results were still mixed. She even let her choreographer / Haus member direct her videos and we know how much we like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justalovegame 0 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hoping the video includes Xtina. Can;t believe R Kelly is the reason this single isnt doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 17. Lady Gaga - Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly) 0.3082 18. Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball 0.3022 Miley coming to wreck DWUW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itaita 0 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Poker face accoustic sounds to me as organic and amazing as Hair, Born this way, The edge of glory, You and I, Gypsy. That part of her is still there. Of course there is another part of her as songwriter where you can put songs like heavy metal lover, scheisse and a lot from ARTPOP. The music isnt the problem. Thats all I wanted to say. Well, tastes differ. A friend in the industry told me once: a hit will clear your history and people will forgive you ANYTHING. I hate to say this, since I am a fan, but this record does not have any songs on it which scream HIT to me. Obviously a matter of taste. DWYW... it is nice and groovy, but doesn't deliver a PUNCH. When I hear PF, Bad Romance, hell even EOG or BTW, I get slight chills, which to me is a sign. ARTPOP doesn't. There's a reason Applause was released first and did so well - because it did do well - it IS a very good pop song, in that regard probably the best on the record. To me, though, the production was heavy handed and it was not mixed properly. The chorus is there, but it's getting lost in the production. However, the problem with Applause was it's subject matter. Coming back with a follow-up and flat out asking for 'Applause' from GP....well.... yeah. Do you want to know why Roar did so well? Kids. Little kids. It entered families, and parents were relieved to hear 6-7 year olds belting out a tune THEY also liked. Hence: hit. Schools, gyms, everywhere. Katie's video? Not too great, but show it to a 7 year old and they LOVE it. Very smart. ARTPOP doesn't have a song like that and Applause while being ultra strong was never that relatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Gaga must be too busy doing stuff with Taylor. I don't like when she wrote us anything on Twitter. Twitter isnt anymore Gaga favorite thing. It has nothing to do with Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalystluna56 2 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Honestly, sometimes it's really helpful to take a step back and look at things from the outside. People know about the album coming out. And you know what? People actually like it. I know this kid who doesn't normally like Gaga, but is a huge follower of pop music. The kid bought the album and love it, even though he knew what the critics said about it. It's a darn good album, no matter the overhyping or anything. Also, regarding DWUW, people really love that song. Straight 18 year old male friend was singing it in the car with me, despite only hearing it a handful of times. He hates Gaga but admits to digging the song. Also, in school, this girl walked into my class singing DWUW and got everyone talking about it. Apparently the track team boys singing it all the time to each other for fun. Everyone was also saying how much they liked the song. Tbh, I was kinda shocked. I honestly think this song is going for the top. Lol, rambled on. But seriously, DWUW is just gonna keep going up. People don't want Gaga anymore, so it's going to take longer for her songs to become hits. However, they're so damn good that eventually no one will resist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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