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You have to be brilliant also to choose interesting songs to do that.

She chooses a particular song, not a popular '90 dance beat.

 

For the rest I already said what I think about the concept and I'm kind of agree for some points...

But it's interesting how now all the tracks are not good, and when they came out everybody were screaming like bottoms 'I love Donatella', 'Perfect', 'Goddess', 'Venus best track evah'... I am speaking in general now ;)

I know, I was one of those people that were screaming how good Donatella and Fashion! are ..  that's why I said that right now I am not rushing to say BEYONCE is the best album this year ...

When I listened to Born This Way at the first time I didn't get most of the songs and I was just listening to BTW, Judas, You and I, TEOG and Marry The Night over and over again because the other songs were so weird and different, but with TIME I started falling in love in every song Individually,  BTW grew so much to me .. I love every single song .. the only song I still can't get is  Black Jesus, but at least the Instrumental is amazing ...  I Love Bad Kids, I love Fashion Of His Love, I think The Queen is one of Gaga's greatest songs ever ...  BTW is on another level there is no current pop artist that can get close to It's greatness. . . Not even BEYONCE ...

 

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But now you just want to prove your point, without using good arguments ..  It's ok if you love ARTPOP the most :hug: It's great album, but the fans most at the time, love everything that their fave put out.. and It's a fact that ARTPOP Image and Music is not as good as it should be, and It's not even on Gaga's standarts ...  I am sure that Act 2 will be better (unless she just put on the Act2  the songs she already have made during these messy times with Troy etc..)

Not even possible.  Born This Way as a whole have this 70s feeling which makes it more cohesive even tho It's messy and a lot of critics have praised BTW's messines, while ARTPOP is messy in another way.. It's not that tolerable ...

Believe me before ARTPOP I though that BTW will always be my favorite Lady Gaga album. Guess I was wrong. BTW is more personal to me but ARTPOP is more proffesional in my opinion. Whatever, everyone has his own opinion... :shrug:

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I will tell you what is the difference. The difference is that Beyonce didn't say anything, she didn't promise anything. She just released an album with an innovative way out of nowere. This gives everyone the feeling that the album is innovative. 

 

:applause: :applause:

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Im sure that through the songs she was hyping about from 2012 there wasn't Donatella where the instrumental was bought or J&D because it was clear that those songs were put for commercial aspects and if from all the 70 songs she made those made the cut as 'the best' then I will have doubts about Gaga ... but they aren't the best they are jsut the most commercial ones

she already said that Onion Girl is her fav Zedd collab,  but wait Gaga WHERE IS THAT SONG  ? Or maybe we should ask Troy ?  She said Brooklyn Nights is really personal and melancholic etc.. where is that song ?

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Something irrelevant. My favorite album of 2013 remains the Next Day by David Bowie.

 

But ARTPOP >>>>>>>> EVERY OTHER POP ALBUM THIS YEAR

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 ARTPOP is neither messy nor awesome. It is a great pop album that the critics bashed because first of all they hated with capital HATED the usage of ART in the title and the lyrics are horrible indeed. I mean, look at J&D lyrics. nothing makes sense..

and that's the label to blame for just let the gurl do her thang

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I know, I was one of those people that were screaming how good Donatella and Fashion! are ..  that's why I said that right now I am not rushing to say BEYONCE is the best album this year ...

When I listened to Born This Way at the first time I didn't get most of the songs and I was just listening to BTW, Judas, You and I, TEOG and Marry The Night over and over again because the other songs were so weird and different, but with TIME I started falling in love in every song Individually,  BTW grew so much to me .. I love every single song .. the only song I still can't get is  Black Jesus, but at least the Instrumental is amazing ...  I Love Bad Kids, I love Fashion Of His Love, I think The Queen is one of Gaga's greatest songs ever ...  BTW is on another level there is no current pop artist that can get close to It's greatness. . . Not even BEYONCE ...

 

 

Agree with this argumentation ;) ;)

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you are the only person on topic in the last few pages :giveup: 

We should stop guys :toofunny:

 

Yeah it's a fun convo but you guys should probably take it to another thread lol :hehe:

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Would be interesting to know what does Gaga herself  think of all this and what are her plans....and her actual feelings.

She must be doing some serious thinking...

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she already said that Onion Girl is her fav Zedd collab,  but wait Gaga WHERE IS THAT SONG  ? Or maybe we should ask Troy ?  She said Brooklyn Nights is really personal and melancholic etc.. where is that song ?

and let's not talk about TEA that was described as the best song Gaga ever made not from her but from the people around her ... everyone that have heard TEA said that was really ARTPOP

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Not even possible.  Born This Way as a whole have this 70s feeling which makes it more cohesive even tho It's messy and a lot of critics have praised BTW's messines, while ARTPOP is messy in another way.. It's not that tolerable ...

 

I really can't experience that feeling, as hard as I'm trying. Plus, the lyrics are cringeworthy and I think it's heavily overproduced, some songs sound like a trashcar exploding. Therefore, ARTPOP is an improvement for me.

 

On the other side, I just had to listen to "Haunted" one single time and was completely slayed. Never happened with any ARTPOP song.

 

Still, I'm visiting the Charts Thread every day, praying that DWUW rises on radio :toofunny:.

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After songs like The Queen and Bloody Mary, there is no way ARTPOP is a step forward for Gaga (commercially maybe, artistically definitely not)  ...
And she set her own standards really high with her own amazing work ..

Now let's get back on Topic:
Cant wait for the video and The Voice ... I only wish they released a teaser for the video last week but oh well ..

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Im sure that through the songs she was hyping about from 2012 there wasn't Donatella where the instrumental was bought or J&D because it was clear that those songs were put for commercial aspects and if from all the 70 songs she made those made the cut as 'the best' then I will have doubts about Gaga ... but they aren't the best they are jsut the most commercial ones

I see where you are coming from and there is a portion of thruth in what you and Mariano try to say. Still more commercial doesn't mean always bad. Thriller is much more commercial than some of MJ's later albums and its considered his best(eventhough I think that he has much better albums). 

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