"Gaga's Album Cover Is A World-Class Work Of Art" says expert

[Jesse Pinkman 4,660]

Oh really It's far from obvious to me. The black-and-white and color ****, what is that? :toofloppy:

I agree. His Warhol reference made no ****ing sense

[Robotboy 1,700]

im glad she finally went all in for a cover. alltho i love them all and how they represent the albums.

[aaronyoji 2,007]

It's a shame that it took a collaboration with Jeff Koons for Gaga to be taken seriously in this medium though. The Born This Way album cover was no less conceptually strong than this one despite the aesthetic and it saddens me a little that she has become art now that he has designed the cover. I wonder if many critics would take a different stance had she made the cover herself.

interesting point. it kind of mirrors the same train of thought that this fan base has in regards to gaga's work as well: if its not done by high end industry big names, and gaga does it herself, its not valid. 

but i do love her collaborations with these artists nonetheless. i know for gaga its not about status or prestige, shes inspired by these people. 

[Didymus 34,379]

Those are coincidences. There are tons of "black/white and color" artworks Besides, the Warhol artwork looks completely different and features an editing of black and white of the same "picture". The ARTPOP cover uses two completely different artworks, even two different media: a painting and a sculpture. It would be nice to think that the "life" and "death" would translate into the Birth of Venus and the death of whatever goddess gets turned into a tree, but whether that has a connection with a Warhol work that looks nothing like it.. I don't know.

 

What upsets me about this review is that he sums up a few (very well-known, let me just add) big artworks and then just says: "It's a world-class artwork because Koons does the same thing that previous groundbreaking artists did! :clap: ) He doesn't even have an art degree (not that you need it), so what his review is, is just one big guess, mixed with an entirely inappropriate subjective statement, that it is a classic artwork that will be remembered as one of the best of the 21st century.

 

The whole thing basically reminds me of what Gaga said in one of her early interviews:

 

"People just have bad references. They only know that many people and they can only tick off a few names when they want to compare something."

 

I have read his other work as well before I made a comment and in every review/article he makes a very subjective guess and calls it a day, even when Koons himself said, more than once, that people should not look for a deeper meaning in his work, which is why he is despised by tons of art critics, because he does not contribute to the evolution of art at all and "is in it for the money".

 

I'm also quite offended by your last, completely off-topic statement. Whether I actually like the artwork itself or not is besides the question. This review is not well written, even if the guy knows what he's talking about. I, in this entire thread, never made one comment about the artwork itself, so don't come at me with that low-class demeanor, okay? If I would've loved this cover, I would still drag the **** out of this review because it just is not good I can't at people being happy that Gaga's getting praise that doesn't make sense.

 

They actually DO make sense. I've learned about art history before and he's spot on. She has the colored part of the cover & the B&W just like Warhol, Koons depicted Gaga differently than Venus just like the painter in Olympia, and the Emin one could be a reference because she's covering her cooch or because: 

 

"Racey Emin is almost always portrayed as a Diana-esque femme tragique. It’s rare to get a glimpse of the happy, successful, confident person she’s become. I’ve Got It All is a transient crowning glory: a shameless, two-fingers up to her critics. Emin’s triumphed over all, and has money up the whazoo to boot!

 

Applause and this album cover seem like a two-fingers up to her critics to me, but I understand if you interpret it differently. But just because you don't like it doesn't mean you're automatically right and this review is trash.

 

Alright, so you don't like it...MOVE ON. You're literally trying to spit negative energy at every member here who likes it. It's saddening, really

[MelbHawker 6,583]

Oh really It's far from obvious to me. The black-and-white and color ****, what is that? :toofloppy:

Bb you need to look at what she's done with the cover, what she's combined and what's resulted. Warhol's a very big part of this cover. 

[Didymus 34,379]

Maybe in spirit, but not as specifically as the black and white, in my opinion. I think you can take thousands of maybe-related artworks and say Koons was inspired by them 

 

I mean:

 

 

and

 

 

I don't see it, personally

 

Bb you need to look at what she's done with the cover, what she's combined and what's resulted. Warhol's a very big part of this cover. 

[MelbHawker 6,583]

Maybe in spirit, but not as specifically as the black and white, in my opinion. I think you can take thousands of maybe-related artworks and say Koons was inspired by them 

 

I mean:

 

 

and

 

 

I don't see it, personally

 

 

Maybe in spirit, but not as specifically as the black and white, in my opinion. I think you can take thousands of maybe-related artworks and say Koons was inspired by them 

 

I mean:

 

 

and

 

 

I don't see it, personally

Hmm I see how one could draw comparisons between what you've posted. The colour schemes, the contrast. It does make sense.

 

I actually see Warhol's influence in a complete different way but do not have time to reply now as Im in class 

[Nullvoid 71]

[Amen Fashion 1,135]

This.

I also first thought about the way this was created was the connection to Warhol. The commercialization of art.

Hmm I see how one could draw comparisons between what you've posted. The colour schemes, the contrast. It does make sense.

I actually see Warhol's influence in a complete different way but do not have time to reply now as Im in class

[SrN_VaN 0]

Unless you have a degree in art your opinions are useless...

[Didymus 34,379]

He doesn't have a degree himself.

 

Unless you have a degree in art your opinions are useless...

[heavyMetalGAGA 65]

Those are coincidences. There are tons of "black/white and color" artworks Besides, the Warhol artwork looks completely different and features an editing of black and white of the same "picture". The ARTPOP cover uses two completely different artworks, even two different media: a painting and a sculpture. It would be nice to think that the "life" and "death" would translate into the Birth of Venus and the death of whatever goddess gets turned into a tree, but whether that has a connection with a Warhol work that looks nothing like it.. I don't know.

 

What upsets me about this review is that he sums up a few (very well-known, let me just add) big artworks and then just says: "It's a world-class artwork because Koons does the same thing that previous groundbreaking artists did! :clap: ) He doesn't even have an art degree (not that you need it), so what his review is, is just one big guess, mixed with an entirely inappropriate subjective statement, that it is a classic artwork that will be remembered as one of the best of the 21st century.

 

The whole thing basically reminds me of what Gaga said in one of her early interviews:

 

"People just have bad references. They only know that many people and they can only tick off a few names when they want to compare something."

 

I have read his other work as well before I made a comment and in every review/article he makes a very subjective guess and calls it a day, even when Koons himself said, more than once, that people should not look for a deeper meaning in his work, which is why he is despised by tons of art critics, because he does not contribute to the evolution of art at all and "is in it for the money".

 

I'm also quite offended by your last, completely off-topic statement. Whether I actually like the artwork itself or not is besides the question. This review is not well written, even if the guy knows what he's talking about. I, in this entire thread, never made one comment about the artwork itself, so don't come at me with that low-class demeanor, okay? If I would've loved this cover, I would still drag the **** out of this review because it just is not good I can't at people being happy that Gaga's getting praise that doesn't make sense.

 

Sorry, I didn't even think my comment was degrading. Just thought you were being a little dramatic about it...I feel like that Koons quote you said though is completely satirical, but that's just my opinion. And the rest of it, well, I guess we should agree to disagree ha.

[Liam Germanotta 3]

I'm happy he likes it, but I don't really know what to think of his review...

 

I don't want everybody, especially the GP to think that Koons and Gaga only got inspiration from other artists... because then people will be like "she's just copying stuff and sells it as her own idea" - and I already read many comments like these about the cover art...

 

I want people to really see that it's her and Koons' creation, their ideas.

The review sounds more like Gaga adapted something and did not really create something.

[Sudarshana 581]

She RT'd this, I can't :DDDD

[Wolf Boy 3,174]

Just because one "expert" likes it, doesn't mean that it's true lol. Dont get me wrong, i actually like the cover, but art is objective and one mans trash is another mand treasure.

This guys opinion is as significant as a homeless person on the street. Just saying.