UK Charts Discussion

[StrawberryBlond 14,294]

Proving she is indeed Only Human, Cheryl's fourth album, which bears that title, falls well short of the opening week's position and sales of all its predecessors, despite the fact that it is the first of the former Girls Aloud star's solo albums to generate two number one singles. Selling just 21,839 copies last week, Only Human debuts at number seven. Her first solo album, Three Words, sold 125,271 copies when it debuted at number one in 2009. Exactly a year later, follow-up Messy Little Raindrops also debuted at number one, on sales of 105,431 copies. She fell short of the hat trick when A Million Lights debuted and peaked at number two, attracting first week sales of 34,934 in 2012.

 

I think this just goes to prove how flawed the pre-order system is. Holding a single back for 2 months will obviously stockpile sales which will be unleashed in just one week, but it will be difficult to gauge from that impressive number just how much actual demand there is for a follow up single and most importantly, an album. But having more than one single on pre-order and thus, getting 2 #1's with good sales, is only going to make the artist look bad when their album gets released and flops miserably. It shows up the pre-order system and the artist's entire PR and hype. Hit singles don't mean anything if you can't sell the albums they're on. Jessie J debuted at #5 with similar figures a few weeks ago and she also had a #1 lead single as a result of a pre-order. And just like Jessie, Cheryl could go from playing arenas to playing O2 academies in the blink of an eye. It's weird to think she sold a million with her debut but fell sharply after that. It just goes to show what amazing hype can do. From 2009-2010, people really bought into the whole "Cheryl is a star" thing. I think she should be a case study for people who want to work in PR.

[Cersei 56]

I think this just goes to prove how flawed the pre-order system is. Holding a single back for 2 months will obviously stockpile sales which will be unleashed in just one week, but it will be difficult to gauge from that impressive number just how much actual demand there is for a follow up single and most importantly, an album. But having more than one single on pre-order and thus, getting 2 #1's with good sales, is only going to make the artist look bad when their album gets released and flops miserably. It shows up the pre-order system and the artist's entire PR and hype. Hit singles don't mean anything if you can't sell the albums they're on. Jessie J debuted at #5 with similar figures a few weeks ago and she also had a #1 lead single as a result of a pre-order. And just like Jessie, Cheryl could go from playing arenas to playing O2 academies in the blink of an eye. It's weird to think she sold a million with her debut but fell sharply after that. It just goes to show what amazing hype can do. From 2009-2010, people really bought into the whole "Cheryl is a star" thing. I think she should be a case study for people who want to work in PR.

 

2009-10 Cheryl was THE biggest pop girl

 

I think ellie goulding, emeli sande, rita ora are all eclipsing her

 

ellie/emeli surely are in album sales

[craig 680]

Cheryl's career is an extension of Girls Aloud, and together they have released 11 albums in 12 years (including 2 GA hits era). I guess fatigue sets in. Girls Aloud produced pop masterpieces 2004-2007, but Cheryl can't match that without Xenomania.

 

Ellie Goulding and Adele may be the only UK based females with 2 straight platinum albums, after Kylie and GA/Cheryl had their long-running streaks snapped.

[GagaMyBlood95 9,899]

1 Band Aid 30 - Do They Know It's Christmas? (2014) 1.0000 0.0963

2 Clean Bandit & Jess Glynne - Real Love 0.0781 1.0000

 

93% lead.

wow

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

206k for Band Aid 1st day.

[Cersei 56]

206k for Band Aid 1st day.

 

This is gonna break the record for fastest selling british single this decade

 

it won't top elton's 1.5 million first week though 

 

it could go platinum in one week.

[HighwayGuy 1,498]

Have they just abandoned Aviciis new single here?

I swear it was up for pre-order to be released really soon but it's just disappeared from itunes

I'm glad tbh didn't wanna hear that on the radio

[Jase 13,081]

Yeah they've cancelled the release, probs because it was doing awfully on pre-orders. Horrid song so I'm not surprised

 

Cheryl's album down to #26 in the mids, good lord :eek:

[StrawberryBlond 14,294]

Cheryl's album down to #26 in the mids, good lord :eek:

 

Considering she's a permanent fixture in the UK right now and it's coming up to Christmas, that is really shocking. Even C2C didn't fall that low in its second week and it had no hit singles and zero promo at that point, despite debuting with lower numbers and chart position and it being 3 months away from Christmas. I can't even imagine what this will mean for Cheryl's physical sales. As she appeals so much to the youth demographic, the majority of them will download her work, meaning there'll be thousands of physical copies in record shops and supermarkets all over the country going to waste. I'd like to know how many copies its shipped because no doubt her label had high hopes for this album because her comeback campaign was doing so well, she was getting heavy promo and her return to XF would mean a return to the glory days when she could go platinum with ease. So, I wouldn't be surprised if it has shipped platinum. But by the looks of things, it's going to go the same way of Tulisa's solo album. I dread to think of all the losses that album cost her label because physical copies in particular were impossible to shift, resulting in cringey 3 for £5 deals in HMV. What happens to all these physical copies that don't sell? Is it like books getting pulped, only in plastic equivalent? It's a question I sometimes ponder these days what with record shops going out of business and artists underperforming.

[BlondeKingOfGGD 1,758]

Where did Blank Space chart here? i thought it was number 9.. Wiki say's number 11 (even though it said 9 a few days ago)

And the charts says 16? ... Even though i swear i checked yesterday and the charts said number 9 too? also the charts says it finishes again in 6 days but dosen't it finish on sunday in 3 days?

[Jase 13,081]

iTunes Update

 

 

01. Do They Know It's Christmas? (2014) - Band Aid 30

02. Real Love - Clean Bandit & Jess Glynne

03. Wrapped Up (feat. Travie McCoy) - Olly Murs

04. Dangerous (feat. Sam Martin) - David Guetta

05. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran

06. Blank Space - Taylor Swift

07. 6 Words - Wretch 32

08. Steal My Girl - One Direction

09. Outside (feat. Ellie Goulding) - Calvin Harris

10. Wait On Me - Rixton

 

11. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor

12. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift

13. Real Love - Tom Odell

14. I Don't Care - Cheryl

15. Like I Can - Sam Smith

16. Wake Me Up (Official BBC Children In Need Single 2014) - Gareth Malone's All Star Choir

17. Let It Go - Idina Menzel

18. You Ruin Me - The Veronicas

19. Don't Tell 'Em (feat. YG) - Jeremih

20. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith

 

21. In the Heat of the Moment - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds

22. Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj

23. Night Changes - One Direction

24. Wicked Games (feat. Anna Naklab) [Radio Edit] - Parra for Cuva

25. I Lived - OneRepublic

26. All of Me - John Legend

27. Blame (feat. John Newman) - Calvin Harris

28. No Good in Goodbye - The Script

29. Blame It on Me - George Ezra

30. Stay With Me - Sam Smith

 

31. T.I.N.A. (feat. Angel) - Fuse ODG

32. Changing (feat. Paloma Faith) - Sigma

33. Steal My Girl - One Direction

34. i - Kendrick Lamar

35. Run - Nicole Scherzinger

36. Superheroes - The Script

37. Animals - Maroon 5

38. Don't - Ed Sheeran

39. Budapest - George Ezra

40. Prayer in C (Robin Schulz Remix) - Robin Schulz & LILLYWOOD

 

Bubbling Under

 

44. Yours - Ella Henderson

49. Listen to the Man - George Ezra

56. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande & The Weeknd

59. Yellow Flicker Beat - Lorde

91. I Loved You (feat. Melissa Steel) - Blonde *Pre-order

98. Desire - Years & Years *Pre-order

[Jase 13,081]

iTunes Update

 

 

01. Do They Know It's Christmas? (2014) - Band Aid 30

02. Real Love - Clean Bandit & Jess Glynne

03. Wrapped Up (feat. Travie McCoy) - Olly Murs

04. Dangerous (feat. Sam Martin) - David Guetta

05. Blank Space - Taylor Swift

06. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran

07. 6 Words - Wretch 32

08. Steal My Girl - One Direction

09. Outside (feat. Ellie Goulding) - Calvin Harris

10. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor

 

11. Wait On Me - Rixton

12. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift

13. Like I Can - Sam Smith

14. I Don't Care - Cheryl

15. Real Love - Tom Odell

16. Don't Tell 'Em (feat. YG) - Jeremih

17. Let It Go - Idina Menzel

18. You Ruin Me - The Veronicas

19. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith

20. In the Heat of the Moment - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds

 

21. Night Changes - One Direction

22. Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj

23. No Good in Goodbye - The Script

24. Wicked Games (feat. Anna Naklab) [Radio Edit] - Parra for Cuva

25. Blame (feat. John Newman) - Calvin Harris

26. I Lived - OneRepublic

27. Wake Me Up (Official BBC Children In Need Single 2014) - Gareth Malone's All Star Choir

28. T.I.N.A. (feat. Angel) - Fuse ODG

29. All of Me - John Legend

30. Changing (feat. Paloma Faith) - Sigma

 

31. Blame It on Me - George Ezra

32. Animals - Maroon 5

33. Superheroes - The Script

34. Steal My Girl - One Direction

35. Stay With Me - Sam Smith

36. i - Kendrick Lamar

37. Don't - Ed Sheeran

38. Budapest - George Ezra

39. Yellow Flicker Beat - Lorde

40. Take Me To Church - Hozier

 

Bubbling Under

 

42. Listen to the Man - George Ezra

52. Yours - Ella Henderson

54. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande & The Weeknd

75. I Loved You (feat. Melissa Steel) - Blonde *Pre-order

90. Baby It's Cold Outside (duet with Michael Bublé) - Idina Menzel

94. These Days - Take That *Pre-order

[SomethingMore 1,701]

I certainly don't have to write an essay to prove a certain member's obsession with Cheryl

 

But I will write an "essay" on something else :

 

Just by scrolling down I noticed that the single's pre-order is mentioned AGAIN. And how that's the reason she got the #1. I will repeat this for the 4th time in this thread, I Don't Care pre orders were TERRIBLE , it got a boost from having an iTunes banner (new releases section), reached #1, and than later The X Factor helped to mantain that #1. Here is the daily progress of the total sales :

 

Tuesday

1 Cheryl - I Don't Care (24.6k) *

 

Wednesday

1 Cheryl - I Don't Care (49.2k) *

 

Thursday
1 Cheryl - I Don't Care (57.4k)*

 

Friday

1 Cheryl - I Don't Care (64.3k)*
 

Sunday

1 Cheryl - I Don't Care (82.4k)*

 

As you can see it didn't get the #1 thanks to pre-orders as the sales were growing steadily every day.The single didn't free fall in its 2nd week, went down to #4, but it was 1k away from #3  selling 47,787 copies. The 2nd week drop was much better than Crazy,Stupid Love's. 

 

This week she is still top 10 on Spotify, #12 combined on iTunes due to many new entries (the most top 40 entries this year).

 

It's doing good, she deserved the #1. 

 

I don't know why I am even bothering......obsessed, full of hatred people will still continue to post about them being right and me "wanting to force them to say my opinion is right". Also for the whoknowswhat time, this is not a ****ing opionion ! It's a FACT. The numbers are right here ! The same numbers I posted already a few pages back.

 

If you have a problem with the pre-order system (and you said you do) than write in general, stop mentioning Cheryl !
 

[Jase 13,081]

SomethingMore, drop the attitude. You may disagree with other members, but don't be snarky about it.

 

As for her "deserving" that #01, well, let's not pretend that's anything other than subjective

[Jase 13,081]

iTunes Update

 

 

01. Do They Know It's Christmas? (2014) - Band Aid 30

02. Wrapped Up (feat. Travie McCoy) - Olly Murs

03. Real Love - Clean Bandit & Jess Glynne

04. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran

05. Blank Space - Taylor Swift

06. Dangerous (feat. Sam Martin) - David Guetta

07. Steal My Girl - One Direction

08. Outside (feat. Ellie Goulding) - Calvin Harris

09. 6 Words - Wretch 32

10. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor

 

11. Like I Can - Sam Smith

12. Wait On Me - Rixton

13. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift

14. I Don't Care - Cheryl

15. Real Love - Tom Odell

16. Night Changes - One Direction

17. Let It Go - Idina Menzel

18. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith

19. Don't Tell 'Em (feat. YG) - Jeremih

20. Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj

 

21. You Ruin Me - The Veronicas

22. Wicked Games (feat. Anna Naklab) [Radio Edit] - Parra for Cuva

23. Blame (feat. John Newman) - Calvin Harris

24. No Good in Goodbye - The Script

25. In the Heat of the Moment - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds

26. Blame It on Me - George Ezra

27. Changing (feat. Paloma Faith) - Sigma

28. I Lived - OneRepublic

29. Animals - Maroon 5

30. All of Me - John Legend

 

31. Wake Me Up (Official BBC Children In Need Single 2014) - Gareth Malone's All Star Choir

32. T.I.N.A. (feat. Angel) - Fuse ODG

33. Don't - Ed Sheeran

34. Superheroes - The Script

35. Stay With Me - Sam Smith

36. Steal My Girl - One Direction

37. Budapest - George Ezra

38. Yellow Flicker Beat - Lorde

39. Prayer in C (Robin Schulz Remix) - Robin Schulz & LILLYWOOD

40. i - Kendrick Lamar

 

Bubbling Under

 

43. Listen to the Man - George Ezra

51. Yours - Ella Henderson

53. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande & The Weeknd

82. I Loved You (feat. Melissa Steel) - Blonde *Pre-order

83. These Days - Take That *Pre-order