ARTPOP tour

[hell0samuel 59]

South America wasn't a flop really, she just didn't sell out. You can't expect somebody new to sell the same as much as Madonna. Live Nation had scheduled the Latin America leg poorly (way too close to the MDNA tour in Latin America) and the promotion was done poorly. They also made the ticket prices way too high at first, and then made the ticket prices lower and lower again. But I wouldn't call about 30.000 people on average something bad. It's just that she didn't play it safe but went with stadium dates. I think she could sell out at least one stadium in Rio, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Mexico City and Columbia. 

 

maybe i worded wrongly, i totally agree with you, I neither considered it a flop. As you said, with promo and venue consideration, it would sell faster/stronger.

[Griffin 6]

50 shows in Asia? Impossible unless she does arena shows, she's better off with 2 stadium shows in China, 3/4 in Japan depending on album succes, 1/2 in South Korea depending on album succes, 1/2 in Taiwan depending on album succes, 1/2 in the Philipines depending on album succes, few arena dates in Vietnam and Malaysia, 2 stadium dates in Singapore, Indonesia, Bangkok and perhaps one in Israel and one in Dubai??

3 in South Africa sounds impossible, that would mean 3 stadium shows in 2 cities. (unless she does one in Durban, Johannesburg and Kaapstad).

 

I think Europe could easily have 60 dates, Oceania could easily have 8 stadium dates, South America easily 10 stadium dates with proper promotion, North America about 30 arena dates and 5 stadium dates, but she could come back later.

 

 

Also, I think that Gaga should start in Asia again, you can't see a lot in stadium shows so it's more about the sound, and her voice definitly was the best in Asia this time, because that was the first leg. She should do Asia as first leg again. NA as second, then Oceania, Europe+South Africa, another NA leg and then end with South America.

 

1. There's no arenas in Vietnam.

2. Malaysia's far too conservative to host her. She'd be better off just maximising the market in Singapore - they're a 3 hour drive apart.

3. She'd be best to stick to arenas or the new Sports Hub Stadium in Singapore, the only in-between is the Marina Bay Stadium which wouldn't work logistically with her stage, I don't think.

4. Israel + Dubai / Abu Dhabi would be great. She could probably do Istanbul and Oman too, though the latter is close to the UAE as it is.

 

Didn't mean to sound rude by doing blunt dot-points, I just figured it layed out my ideas more clearly.

[Chinosky 1,912]

1. There's no arenas in Vietnam.

2. Malaysia's far too conservative to host her. She'd be better off just maximising the market in Singapore - they're a 3 hour drive apart.

3. She'd be best to stick to arenas or the new Sports Hub Stadium in Singapore, the only in-between is the Marina Bay Stadium which wouldn't work logistically with her stage, I don't think.

4. Israel + Dubai / Abu Dhabi would be great. She could probably do Istanbul and Oman too, though the latter is close to the UAE as it is.

 

Didn't mean to sound rude by doing blunt dot-points, I just figured it layed out my ideas more clearly.

She could also do Ankara in Turkey.

[Vanilla 660]

50 shows in Asia? Impossible unless she does arena shows, she's better off with 2 stadium shows in China, 3/4 in Japan depending on album succes, 1/2 in South Korea depending on album succes, 1/2 in Taiwan depending on album succes, 1/2 in the Philipines depending on album succes, few arena dates in Vietnam and Malaysia, 2 stadium dates in Singapore, Indonesia, Bangkok and perhaps one in Israel and one in Dubai??

3 in South Africa sounds impossible, that would mean 3 stadium shows in 2 cities. (unless she does one in Durban, Johannesburg and Kaapstad).

 

I think Europe could easily have 60 dates, Oceania could easily have 8 stadium dates, South America easily 10 stadium dates with proper promotion, North America about 30 arena dates and 5 stadium dates, but she could come back later.

 

 

Also, I think that Gaga should start in Asia again, you can't see a lot in stadium shows so it's more about the sound, and her voice definitly was the best in Asia this time, because that was the first leg. She should do Asia as first leg again. NA as second, then Oceania, Europe+South Africa, another NA leg and then end with South America.

 

It'd be smarter to do Oceania after Asia as it is on the same side of the world then work her way over again. I'd go Asia, Oceania, America, Europe, South Africa, South America and finish in America.

[Griffin 6]

It'd be smarter to do Oceania after Asia as it is on the same side of the world then work her way over again. I'd go Asia, Oceania, America, Europe, South Africa, South America and finish in America.

 

I'd go Middle East (incl. Turkey), Asia (incl. India), Oceania, North America, South America (excl. Mexico), Africa, Europe, North America II (2 Honda Center dates + 4 Barclays Center dates for DVD, and one Estadio Azteca for DVD + to end the tour). 

[Rainbow Unicorn 82]

If Gaga want the ARTPOP Ball bigger than the BTWBALL, she should do 130/150 dates and take time.

 

My tour plan :

1. North America : 23/25 dates

LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000

LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000
LAS VEGAS – MGM Grand Garden Arena – 14,000
CHICAGO – United Center – 19,000
CHICAGO – United Center – 19,000
DETROIT - Joe Louis Arena – 15,000
HAMILTON – Copps Coliseum – 17,000
NEW YORK – Madison Square Garden – 16,000
NEW YORK – Madison Square Garden – 16,000
PHILADELPHIA – Wells Fargo Center – 18,000
BOSTON – TD Garden – 18,000
UNIVERSITY PARK – Bryce Jordan Center – 15,000
UNCASVILLE – Mohegan Sun Arena – 12,000
NASHVILLE – Bridgestone Arena – 17,000
ATLANTA – Philipps Arena – 19,000
TAMPA – Tampa Bay Times Forum – 18,000
FORT LAUDERDALE – Bank Atlantic Center – 19,000
MIAMI – American Airlines Arena – 17,000
GREENSBORO – Greensboro Coliseum – 14,000
TULSA – BOK Center – 12,000
EDMONTON – Rexall Place – 15,000
OTTAWA – Scotiabank Place – 17,000

TORONTO – Rogers Center – 40,000

2. Asia : 20 dates

SEOUL – Jamsil Olympic Stadium – 60,000

TOKYO – Tokyo Dome – 55,000
TOKYO – Tokyo Dome – 55,000
OSAKA – Osaka Dome – 50,000
FUKUOKA – Fukuoka Dome – 35,000
FUKUOKA – Fukuoka Dome – 35,000
HONG KONG – Hong Kong Stadium – 40,000
SHANGHAI – Shanghai Stadium – 75,000
BEIJING – Beijing National Stadium – 80,000
TAIPEI - Taipei Municipal Stadium – 25,000
MANILA - Rizal Memorial Stadium – 25,000
KUALA LUMPUR – Stadium Merdeka – 35,000
SINGAPORE – Indoor Stadium – 12,000
SINGAPORE – Indoor Stadium – 12,000
BANGKOK – Rajamangala Stadium – 45,000
JAKARTA – Gelora Bung Karno Stadium – 80,000
HANOI - My Dinh National Stadium – 40,000
MUMBAI – Wankhede Stadium – 35,000
NEW DELHI – Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium – 120,000

TOSHKENT - Pakhtakor Markaziy Stadium – 35,000

3. Oceania : 7 dates

WELLINGTON – Westpac Stadium – 35,000

AUCKLAND – Mount Smart Stadium – 45,000
MELBOURNE – Ethiad Stadium – 65,000
SYDNEY – Allianz Stadium – 50,000
BRISBANE – Suncorp Stadium – 50,000
PERTH – Perth Oval – 25,000
ADELAIDE – Adelaide Oval – 30,000

4. Europe : 19/20 dates

SOFIA – Armeets Arena – 12,000

BUCHAREST – Piața Constituției – 25,000
BELGRADE – Kombank Arena – 17,000
BUDAPEST – Budapest Sports Arena – 15,000
ATHENS – Terra Vibe Park – 20,000
RIGA – Arena Riga – 14,000
VILNIUS – Siemens Arena – 13,000
TALLIN – Tallin Song Festival Grounds – 75,000
BERGEN – Koengen – 25,000
MOSCOW – Olimpiyskiy – 19,000
ST PETERSBURG – Ice Palace – 13,000
HELSINKI – Hartwall Areena – 12,000
HELSINKI – Hartwall Areena – 12,000
STOCKHOLM – Stockholm Olympic Stadium – 35,000
WARSAW – Warsaw National Stadium – 55,000
COPENHAGEN – Parken Stadium – 50,000
ZAGREB – Arena Zagreb – 20,000
PRAGUE – Eden Arena – 30,000
KIEV – Kiev Olympic Stadium – 35,000

5. Middle East : 4 dates

TEL AVIV – Ramat Gan Stadium – 40,000

DUBAI – The Sevens Stadium – 50,000
MUSCAT – Wattaya Stadium – 15,000
ISTANBUL – BJK Inönü Stadium – 30,000

6. North America : 24/25 dates

SEATTLE – Key Arena – 15,000

SAN JOSE – HP Pavilion at San Jose – 14,000
LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000
ANAHEIN – Honda Center – 17,000
SAN DIEGO - Valley View Casino Center – 13,000
LAS VEGAS – MGM Grand Garden Arena – 14,000
PHOENIX – US Airways Center – 15,000
DENVER – Pepsi Center – 18,000
KANSAS CITY – Sprint Center – 19,000
HOUSTON – Toyota Center – 16,000
DALLAS – American Airlines Center – 16,000
BALTIMORE - 1st Mariner Arena – 13,000
CHARLOTTE – Time Warner Cable Arena – 16,000
WASHINGTON – Verizon Center – 18,000
HERSHEY – Hersheypark Stadium – 30,000
NEW YORK – Yankee Stadium – 60,000
ST LOUIS – Scottrade Center – 17,000
SAINT PAUL – Xcel Energy Center – 12,000
BUFFALO – First Niagara Center – 16,000
TORONTO – Air Canada Center – 17,000
TORONTO – Air Canada Center – 17,000
MONTREAL – Bell Center – 16,000
VANCOUVER – Rogers Arena – 15,000
VANCOUVER – Rogers Arena – 15,000

7. Latin America : 18/20 dates

SAN JOSE – Estadio Ricardo Saprissa Ayma – 25,000

GUATEMALA CITY - Estadio Mateo Flores – 30,000
BOGOTA – Simón Bolívar Park – 50,000
QUITO - Estadio Olímpico Atahualpa – 35,000
BUENOS AIRES - Estadio Jos̩ Amalfitani Р50,000
SÃO PAULO – Arena Palestra – 60,000
RIO DE JANEIRO РPra̤a da Apoteose Р35,000
PORTO ALEGRE - Estádio Passo d'Areia – 20,000
SANTIAGO – Estadio Monumental David Arellano – 45,000
LIMA – Explanada del Monumental – 30,000
ASUNCION – Hipódromo de Asunción – 30,000
CARACAS - Estadio de F̼tbol de la USB Р20,000
PORT OF SPAIN – Queen's Park Oval – 25,000
SANTO DOMINGO - Estadio Olímpico Félix Sánchez – 50,000
BAYAMON - Juan Ramón Loubriel Stadium – 25,000
MEXICO CITY – Foro Sol – 55,000
GUADALAJARA – Estadio Tres de Marzo – 30,000
MONTERREY – Estadio Tecnologico – 40,000

8. Europe : 29/30 dates

ARNHEM – Gelredome – 35,000

COLOGNE – Lanxess Arena – 18,000
COLOGNE – Lanxess Arena – 18,000
HAMBURG – O2 World Hamburg – 16,000
BERLIN – O2 World Berlin – 13,000
MUNICH – Olympiahalle – 14,000
ANTWERP – Sportpaleis – 16,000
ANTWERP – Sportpaleis – 16,000
PARIS – Stade de France – 80,000
LILLE РGrand Stade Lille M̩tropole Р25,000
MONTPELLIER -  Park&Suites Arena – 14,000
GENEVE РStade de Gen̬ve Р30,000
ZURICH – Letzigrund – 45,000
VIENNA – Wiener Stadthalle – 14,000
ROME – Stadio Flaminio – 40,000
TURIN – Stadio Olimpico di Torino – 30,000
BARCELONA - Estadio Cornellá-El Prat – 35,000
VALLADOLID РEstadio Jos̩ Zorilla Р35,000
LISBON РPavilḥo Atl̢ntico Р18,000
LONDON – Twickenham Stadium – 55,000 DVD
LONDON – Twickenham Stadium – 55,000 DVD
CARDIFF – Millenium Stadium – 60,000
BIRMINGHAM – LG Arena – 13,000
MANCHESTER – City of Manchester Stadium – 60,000
SUNDERLAND – Stadium of Light – 50,000
GLASGOW – Hampden Park – 55,000
DUBLIN – Aviva Stadium – 45,000
BELFAST – Odyssey Arena – 14,000
BELFAST – Odyssey Arena – 14,000

9. Africa : 4 dates

JOHANNESBURG – FNB Stadium – 60,000

CAPE TOWN – Cape Town Stadium – 45,000
DURBAN – Kings Park Stadium – 55,000
PORT ELIZABETH – EPRU Stadium – 30,000

 

ATTENDANCE : 4,500,000

GROSS : $390,000,000

My dream I think. Not Gaga's one. 

[Future Lover 2,588]

If she wanted to, yes. She'd just have to promo it well and time the stops on the tour perfectly. She needs to start with the US because a lot of the people here lose interest fast. As we saw with the BTWB, the European and Asian fans will wait for her to come. If she promos the singles well + has somewhat cheap ticket prices so could keep adding legs just like with TMB.

[netoschultz 0]

If Gaga want the ARTPOP Ball bigger than the BTWBALL, she should do 130/150 dates and take time.

 

My tour plan :

1. North America : 23/25 dates

LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000

LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000

LAS VEGAS – MGM Grand Garden Arena – 14,000

CHICAGO – United Center – 19,000

CHICAGO – United Center – 19,000

DETROIT - Joe Louis Arena – 15,000

HAMILTON – Copps Coliseum – 17,000

NEW YORK – Madison Square Garden – 16,000

NEW YORK – Madison Square Garden – 16,000

PHILADELPHIA – Wells Fargo Center – 18,000

BOSTON – TD Garden – 18,000

UNIVERSITY PARK – Bryce Jordan Center – 15,000

UNCASVILLE – Mohegan Sun Arena – 12,000

NASHVILLE – Bridgestone Arena – 17,000

ATLANTA – Philipps Arena – 19,000

TAMPA – Tampa Bay Times Forum – 18,000

FORT LAUDERDALE – Bank Atlantic Center – 19,000

MIAMI – American Airlines Arena – 17,000

GREENSBORO – Greensboro Coliseum – 14,000

TULSA – BOK Center – 12,000

EDMONTON – Rexall Place – 15,000

OTTAWA – Scotiabank Place – 17,000

TORONTO – Rogers Center – 40,000

2. Asia : 20 dates

SEOUL – Jamsil Olympic Stadium – 60,000

TOKYO – Tokyo Dome – 55,000

TOKYO – Tokyo Dome – 55,000

OSAKA – Osaka Dome – 50,000

FUKUOKA – Fukuoka Dome – 35,000

FUKUOKA – Fukuoka Dome – 35,000

HONG KONG – Hong Kong Stadium – 40,000

SHANGHAI – Shanghai Stadium – 75,000

BEIJING – Beijing National Stadium – 80,000

TAIPEI - Taipei Municipal Stadium – 25,000

MANILA - Rizal Memorial Stadium – 25,000

KUALA LUMPUR – Stadium Merdeka – 35,000

SINGAPORE – Indoor Stadium – 12,000

SINGAPORE – Indoor Stadium – 12,000

BANGKOK – Rajamangala Stadium – 45,000

JAKARTA – Gelora Bung Karno Stadium – 80,000

HANOI - My Dinh National Stadium – 40,000

MUMBAI – Wankhede Stadium – 35,000

NEW DELHI – Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium – 120,000

TOSHKENT - Pakhtakor Markaziy Stadium – 35,000

3. Oceania : 7 dates

WELLINGTON – Westpac Stadium – 35,000

AUCKLAND – Mount Smart Stadium – 45,000

MELBOURNE – Ethiad Stadium – 65,000

SYDNEY – Allianz Stadium – 50,000

BRISBANE – Suncorp Stadium – 50,000

PERTH – Perth Oval – 25,000

ADELAIDE – Adelaide Oval – 30,000

4. Europe : 19/20 dates

SOFIA – Armeets Arena – 12,000

BUCHAREST – Piața Constituției – 25,000

BELGRADE – Kombank Arena – 17,000

BUDAPEST – Budapest Sports Arena – 15,000

ATHENS – Terra Vibe Park – 20,000

RIGA – Arena Riga – 14,000

VILNIUS – Siemens Arena – 13,000

TALLIN – Tallin Song Festival Grounds – 75,000

BERGEN – Koengen – 25,000

MOSCOW – Olimpiyskiy – 19,000

ST PETERSBURG – Ice Palace – 13,000

HELSINKI – Hartwall Areena – 12,000

HELSINKI – Hartwall Areena – 12,000

STOCKHOLM – Stockholm Olympic Stadium – 35,000

WARSAW – Warsaw National Stadium – 55,000

COPENHAGEN – Parken Stadium – 50,000

ZAGREB – Arena Zagreb – 20,000

PRAGUE – Eden Arena – 30,000

KIEV – Kiev Olympic Stadium – 35,000

5. Middle East : 4 dates

TEL AVIV – Ramat Gan Stadium – 40,000

DUBAI – The Sevens Stadium – 50,000

MUSCAT – Wattaya Stadium – 15,000

ISTANBUL – BJK Inönü Stadium – 30,000

6. North America : 24/25 dates

SEATTLE – Key Arena – 15,000

SAN JOSE – HP Pavilion at San Jose – 14,000

LOS ANGELES – Staples Center – 19,000

ANAHEIN – Honda Center – 17,000

SAN DIEGO - Valley View Casino Center – 13,000

LAS VEGAS – MGM Grand Garden Arena – 14,000

PHOENIX – US Airways Center – 15,000

DENVER – Pepsi Center – 18,000

KANSAS CITY – Sprint Center – 19,000

HOUSTON – Toyota Center – 16,000

DALLAS – American Airlines Center – 16,000

BALTIMORE - 1st Mariner Arena – 13,000

CHARLOTTE – Time Warner Cable Arena – 16,000

WASHINGTON – Verizon Center – 18,000

HERSHEY – Hersheypark Stadium – 30,000

NEW YORK – Yankee Stadium – 60,000

ST LOUIS – Scottrade Center – 17,000

SAINT PAUL – Xcel Energy Center – 12,000

BUFFALO – First Niagara Center – 16,000

TORONTO – Air Canada Center – 17,000

TORONTO – Air Canada Center – 17,000

MONTREAL – Bell Center – 16,000

VANCOUVER – Rogers Arena – 15,000

VANCOUVER – Rogers Arena – 15,000

7. Latin America : 18/20 dates

SAN JOSE – Estadio Ricardo Saprissa Ayma – 25,000

GUATEMALA CITY - Estadio Mateo Flores – 30,000

BOGOTA – Simón Bolívar Park – 50,000

QUITO - Estadio Olímpico Atahualpa – 35,000

BUENOS AIRES - Estadio Jos̩ Amalfitani Р50,000

SÃO PAULO – Arena Palestra – 60,000

RIO DE JANEIRO РPra̤a da Apoteose Р35,000

PORTO ALEGRE - Estádio Passo d'Areia – 20,000

SANTIAGO – Estadio Monumental David Arellano – 45,000

LIMA – Explanada del Monumental – 30,000

ASUNCION – Hipódromo de Asunción – 30,000

CARACAS - Estadio de F̼tbol de la USB Р20,000

PORT OF SPAIN – Queen's Park Oval – 25,000

SANTO DOMINGO - Estadio Olímpico Félix Sánchez – 50,000

BAYAMON - Juan Ramón Loubriel Stadium – 25,000

MEXICO CITY – Foro Sol – 55,000

GUADALAJARA – Estadio Tres de Marzo – 30,000

MONTERREY – Estadio Tecnologico – 40,000

8. Europe : 29/30 dates

ARNHEM – Gelredome – 35,000

COLOGNE – Lanxess Arena – 18,000

COLOGNE – Lanxess Arena – 18,000

HAMBURG – O2 World Hamburg – 16,000

BERLIN – O2 World Berlin – 13,000

MUNICH – Olympiahalle – 14,000

ANTWERP – Sportpaleis – 16,000

ANTWERP – Sportpaleis – 16,000

PARIS – Stade de France – 80,000

LILLE РGrand Stade Lille M̩tropole Р25,000

MONTPELLIER -  Park&Suites Arena – 14,000

GENEVE РStade de Gen̬ve Р30,000

ZURICH – Letzigrund – 45,000

VIENNA – Wiener Stadthalle – 14,000

ROME – Stadio Flaminio – 40,000

TURIN – Stadio Olimpico di Torino – 30,000

BARCELONA - Estadio Cornellá-El Prat – 35,000

VALLADOLID РEstadio Jos̩ Zorilla Р35,000

LISBON РPavilḥo Atl̢ntico Р18,000

LONDON – Twickenham Stadium – 55,000 DVD

LONDON – Twickenham Stadium – 55,000 DVD

CARDIFF – Millenium Stadium – 60,000

BIRMINGHAM – LG Arena – 13,000

MANCHESTER – City of Manchester Stadium – 60,000

SUNDERLAND – Stadium of Light – 50,000

GLASGOW – Hampden Park – 55,000

DUBLIN – Aviva Stadium – 45,000

BELFAST – Odyssey Arena – 14,000

BELFAST – Odyssey Arena – 14,000

9. Africa : 4 dates

JOHANNESBURG – FNB Stadium – 60,000

CAPE TOWN – Cape Town Stadium – 45,000

DURBAN – Kings Park Stadium – 55,000

PORT ELIZABETH – EPRU Stadium – 30,000

 

My dream I think. Not Gaga's one. 

You could add my city in Latin America

Curitiba in Brazil...It`s a big city (about 2.1 milion of people)... There aren`t a lot of big singers that comes here.. Last one was Maroon 5.. i think

They are building a big stadium here for World Cup in 2014.. She can perform there :)

 

Capacity: 43.000

[Luc 4,772]

I'd go Middle East (incl. Turkey), Asia (incl. India), Oceania, North America, South America (excl. Mexico), Africa, Europe, North America II (2 Honda Center dates + 4 Barclays Center dates for DVD, and one Estadio Azteca for DVD + to end the tour). 

I doubt Gaga could tour through the Middle East, Gaga's way too controversional. Maybe Israel and Turkey, maybe, if Madonna can Gaga sure can. But not anywhere else.

[Little J 0]

I hope gaga brings ARTPOP ball to brazil since she really loved here <3

[drinkmytears 2,332]

Looking at these dates and hoping they are real because they are spread out nice enough that I could go to like 11 shows...

[Griffin 6]

I doubt Gaga could tour through the Middle East, Gaga's way too controversional. Maybe Israel and Turkey, maybe, if Madonna can Gaga sure can. But not anywhere else.

 

Israel, Turkey and the UAE would all be VERY safe options, yes.

 

It's important not to confuse the UAE with Saudi Arabia.

1. Rogers Centre for concerts is smaller that Air Canada Centre

 

Nope.

 

Rihanna's Diamonds Tour in the Air Canada Centre: 16,019

Justin's Believe Tour in the Rogers Centre (was not a full house): 43,817.

 

[Rainbow Unicorn 82]

I think she can sellout Rogers Centre or maybe she can sell between 80 and 95% of the tickets. She sold more than 32 000 tickets with the BTWBALL in two nights, so why not ? x)

[HANZ 4,380]

she should play mostly stadiums next time

[drinkmytears 2,332]

1. Rogers Centre for concerts is smaller that Air Canada Centre

2. She will NEVER go to Hamilton, because for TBTWB Hamilton was just to make up because of the fact that she couldn't go to Buffalo

3. Toronto and Buffalo dates are usually close or right next to each other

4. Maybe she'll 2 nights in Buffalo because for TMB she sold out in an hour.

5. On my way back to Buffalo from Toronto BTWB I stopped by Hamilton to get my tickets for that date and I asked the sales stats, the old saggy b---h there said only about 70% of the tickets were sold, which is horrible

6. And Buffalo is nicer tbh, yes I went there deal with the truth

 

the BTWB was a totally different story. 70% isn't horrible either. She hasn't released an album in 2 years and she's not what's hot right now. Plus most people have seen her in the past few years.