Unpopular opinion: Madonna (2026)

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1 hour ago, Lucas said:

 

What are the reasons?

She’s catty, negative and pompous. She’s had one off “hits” for more than a quarter of a century since her last #1 - and the “comeback” eras don’t really stack up to actual hits; 4 Minutes out performed both Hung Up and Ray of Light, and people laud both COADF and ROL as her best works. Her last era with multiple top 20 songs was in 1990. And I don’t think she’s nearly as innovative as people claim. She has worn the same leotards and lingerie in pink, purple or black for 20 years. The fashion isn’t there for me. 

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3 minutes ago, Anderson123 said:

Idk but I feel like Bizarre is way too overrated and basic. Sounds like just the typical EDM song Martin Garrix or those 2010s DJs would do and could've been on MDNA.

I'm torn

when it was released, that was how I initially felt (it sounds like basic, dated EDM)... 

...& I still feel that way...

but I also think it's the catchiest instrumental on the album

(I'm basic to begin with, though)

Meanwhile, in many ways, Gang Bang is a goofy/sh!tty song....

but I maintain that 2:27 - 2:47 is catchier / more inherently danceable than anything on C2

Idc what anyone says

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19 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

She’s catty, negative and pompous. She’s had one off “hits” for more than a quarter of a century since her last #1 - and the “comeback” eras don’t really stack up to actual hits; 4 Minutes out performed both Hung Up and Ray of Light, and people laud both COADF and ROL as her best works. Her last era with multiple top 20 songs was in 1990. And I don’t think she’s nearly as innovative as people claim. She has worn the same leotards and lingerie in pink, purple or black for 20 years. The fashion isn’t there for me. 

Her fashion is so ****ing bad and literally always has been, I'm SO GLAD we're talking about it. But gurl. Come for Ray Of Light again and I'll tell the swifties where you live and that you hate 1989.

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3 hours ago, Creyk said:

Gang Bang is a good song.

The MDNA Tour performance of Gang Bang is among her best performances ever

[Duella Dvil 12,594]

Okay, so I'm stuck on a plane.

Here's my hot takes:

-The perpetual lateness on her tours is damaging her legacy BUT I have never met a person who didn't ultimately believe that it was worth it to be up late with Madonna.

-Within the Madonna fanbase this isn't a hot take but within the general public it absolutely is. Her best album is Erotica. Followed CLOSELY by Bedtime Stories.

Her best tour is WITHOUT A DOUBT MDNA. Her most iconic is Blonde Ambition. Do not confuse the 2. Confessions Tour is her best in the eyes of the fans but is LARGELY forgettable in the GP. 

Hard Candy album is hot trash but it spawned the BEST remix of Vogue. Vogue 2008 CLEARS most other girls full discographies

Her ballads are FAR better than her dance music. Take A Bow is her best song, thus why it was her longest running number 1.

Skin needs to be performed eventually. It is legitimately one of the best tracks on Ray of Light.

Sanctuary into Bedtime Story is more impactful than chromatica 2 into 911.

Bedtime Stories is and probably always will be my favorite Madonna record. The way she navigated that record needs to be studied. Positions (Ariana Grande) WISHES she were as good as Bedtime Stories.

I am sick and tired of her singing live in concert and then getting HEAVILY dubbed over for the concert special. If you're present you are inundated by her inability to sing BUT for some reason it works. This presentation of perfection after the tour is over is dishonest and revisionist history. I would RATHER be hearing her not some over edited bullshit that loses ALL charm along the way.

The Celebration Tour was completely unnecessary. I loved it. I had fun. I love my blonde ambition bomber jacket but that concert was SUCH a departure from what makes a madonna show such a moment. The new material and the reimagining of her songs within the confines of the new sound presented is ALWAYS an integral part of the show. With this show basically being Finally Enough Love: The Show it felt so ironic (not a good irony) that she decided to look back like that, something she has NEVER done. There were incredible moments but ultimately with the health scare i refuse to pretend that show was a good or necessary idea. Speaking of, why was the box that raised out of the b stage used for ONE song (Bedtime story and ray of light prep)

Her performance at Coachella was cool as **** but I wish she got a headline set at SOME point in her career. Like wtf do you mean JUSTIN BIEBER headlined Coachella before Ma****ingDonna.

Like a virgin is literally so annoying tew me. MATERIAL GIRL DESERVED HER FLOWERS AT THE VMAs. Imagine her referencing Marilyn and having THAT be the introduction to the VMAs. I don't care that she showed her ass on MTV during one of her most uninspired singles. MATERIAL GIRL HOWEVER that would have been the serve.

I cannot STAND the 2003 performance at the VMAs. Britney sounds ridiculous. XTINA looks a mess... Hollywood is ultimately forgettable Missy Elliot (in my opinion) was the most entertaining and unexpected part of that performance. 

The Re-invention Tour is underrated. 

American Life CLEARS joanne AND music.

X-Static Process, To Have Not To Hold and O Father are her best ballads. (Ignoring my EXTREME Take A Bow bias)

She is EXACTLY as impactful as her fans claim, claiming otherwise IS revisionist history. 

You can bring up the cultural appropriation all day, but her reasoning has always been to spotlight the cultures that she's bringing to the stage. She is unfortunately white in pop music of course the media is going to OVER EXPOSE her to the masses and give HER credit over her black/brown counterparts. The racism of society is NOT a product of her own doing and is why her choosing to SHARE the spotlight IS incredible. She could stand alone and take credit but she chooses to share the stage with various singers, instrumentalists, dancers, and even drag queens.

The Vogue era being "problematic" is ignorant as ****. Not ONCE did she ever claim to invent ballroom culture. However at the height of the AIDs crisis she DEMANDED to bring black and brown voices to the forefront of the most popular genre on the planet. Making way for queer people everywhere to be taken more seriously as artists before almost ANYONE else did.

True Blue is a perfect album and the best song on it is Live To Tell. There isn't a SINGLE skip (a lot of hard-core fans think that only the hits are good) more people should follow suit with that record more is not better sometimes you just need 8 perfect songs. All killer no filler.

She should have gotten the super bowl for Hard Candy NOT MDNA.

This isn't a hot take but I just want to say it. SHE SHOULD HAVE NEVER SET FOOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA FOR FILM. I hate her as an actress AND as a director. Patti Lupone is Right.

I'm so sick of how many versions of every song there is on streaming. Express yourself has like 50 versions. And they all SUCK

I don't think born this way sounds like Express Yourself. However they do sound the same... like ****. That's what they have in common, they're both ****ing AWFUL sonic journeys with overblown "messages"

Confessions 2 is better than Confessions 1. BUT Confessions 2 does NOT have hung up or sorry or Isaac.

Madonna's team REALLY needs to fix her digital catalog. 

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56 minutes ago, Duella Dvil said:

Her fashion is so ****ing bad and literally always has been, I'm SO GLAD we're talking about it. But gurl. Come for Ray Of Light again and I'll tell the swifties where you live and that you hate 1989.

I stand on the fact that Ray of Light isn’t that great. COADF is a radically better album.

sick those Swifties on me; because 1989 is a better album than Ray of Light. 
 

I’ll even take is further - I think Taylor is the actual queen of pop and more impactful than Madge. 

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2 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

I stand on the fact that Ray of Light isn’t that great. COADF is a radically better album.

sick those Swifties on me; because 1989 is a better album than Ray of Light. 

1989?!??! BETTER THAN RAY OF LIGHT?!?!? What DRUGS have you been taking and where can I get some?!?!

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4 minutes ago, Duella Dvil said:

1989?!??! BETTER THAN RAY OF LIGHT?!?!? What DRUGS have you been taking and where can I get some?!?!

Molly and it’s gotten very expensive, apparently. 

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10 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

Molly and it’s gotten very expensive, apparently. 

Kelly Clarkson is EN ROUTE to your location, the swifties have you surrounded. Watch your back gurl.

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1 hour ago, MountainMonster said:

4 Minutes out performed both Hung Up and Ray of Light,

Wut

Hung Up was the most commercially successful dance single of the decade in the US. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Wut

Hung Up was the most commercially successful dance single of the decade in the US. 

 

Okay I thought i was HALLUCINATING 

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“Confessions II” is a dumb title, it waters down the actual album. Yes it was a good idea to say it’s a part 2 but don’t just LITERALLY call it that, feels lazy especially since so much effort is seen on this era, honestly “Danceteria” would have been a better album title even though I think the track is over rated.  Love Without Words is the best song on the album, and Kylie should have been on Bring Your Love not Sabrina. Love Sensation (solo version) should have been the first single. 

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53 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

I’ll even take is further - I think Taylor is the actual queen of pop and more impactful than Madge. 

Okay, so like. This is actually dumb.

Like just wrong, what you think is NOT the reality.

Like understand that this reality you live in is delusional. Taylor Swift is NOT seeing Madonna in the global impact category.

She's not even REMOTELY approaching her status as an advocate

Her ENTIRE catalog is explicitly about herself. Very seldomly does Taylor Speak on ANYTHING that doesn't immediately involve herself.

Taylor could NEVER do the blonde ambition tour. Taylor could NEVER clear a sample from Abba. Prince would NEVER work with her.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but at least ground yourself in REALITY 

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God Control is a great song and has one of the best music videos I’ve ever seen. 

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This seems like a somewhat widespread opinion now, but her 80s albums were really not that great. The hits from those albums are amongst her best, in particular Everybody, Burning Up, Borderline, Open Your Heart, Papa Don't Preach, True Blue, Live to Tell, Like a Prayer and Express Yourself, but other than a few standouts such as Love Song and Act of Contrition, the album tracks are at best messy and at worst mediocre.