The new wave of nostalgia bait is coming

[gagzus 25,454]

So, if you haven’t been aware or keeping up; Paramount and Warner Bros are merging companies (like how Disney consolidated with Pixar, Fox and their subsidiaries) and now they have a commitment as part of that merger to release THIRTY (30) theatrical movies across both companies and subsidiaries per year; double what Disney puts out per year. And there’s one easy way for them to do that; milk old IP.

Already before the merger, Warner Bros has showed a commitment to milking IP with the upcoming Harry Potter reboot show, spreading the already successful movies over almost a decades worth of television to come. And that is going to happen to a LOT of IP next most likely.

It’s highly likely within the next 5-10 years we’ll get a new wave of nostalgia in movies and TV from all the IP they will have combined; before the merger a prequel movie to GoT was already planned for instance, so expect more movies like that to “full slots” every year from their large bank of IP. Analysts are already predicting a multiple season adaptation of the Lord of The Rings to come after the merger to TV as well as a full Star Trek reboot. 

The merger beyond the financial and consumer concerns is creatively going to absolutely follow Disney’s already successful nostalgia IP system and add a little extra to it; so popular IP from them that exists as movies will most likely become TV adaptations and popular TV adaptations will likely get movies.

It’s also HIGHLY likely they‘ll want to compete with Disney’s merchandise/park domination so expect more merch and eventually an expanded Warner Bros/Paramount theme park beyond just Wizarding World

Here’s a brief list of combined IP between Warner and Paramount they’d have to make nostalgia bait productions with; 

* The DC Universe (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Justice League etc)

* Wizarding World (Harry Potter, Fantastic Beasts)

* Star Trek Universe

* A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Universe

* Middle-Earth/LOTR

*Transformers

* GI Joe

* Dune

* The Matrix

* Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network & Hanna-Barbera (Looney Tunes, Avatar, Powerpuff Girls, The Flintstones, Rick & Morty etc)

* HBO Classics like The Sopranos

* Warner Archive such as The Wizard of Oz, Goodfellas, Steven King’s movie universe

The list is endless, this is just a small fraction of it.

But yeah, just wanted everyone who hates recycled IP to brace for the next wave of it; Disney’s IP fatigue might have happened but we’ve now got Warner and Paramounts to come.

Edited 21 hours ago by gagzus

[Helxig 45,790]

I am so. F.ucking. Sick. Of nostalgia bait

I'm about to get mad don't talk to me

[gagzus 25,454]

6 minutes ago, Helxig said:

I am so. F.ucking. Sick. Of nostalgia bait

I'm about to get mad don't talk to me

As long as it’s successful it’s not going away I’m afraid. If this Harry Potter reboot has great viewership figures it’ll likely continue.

[PornoDanceFight 2,702]

Do we think that these nostalgia-baits are because we cannot envision a future or future culture, so we regress to 20th/early 21st century cultural artifacts as a source of comfort, or is it because we are apprehensive to the calamity that the middle/end of what the 21st century will bring via climate change and social unrest, thus leaving us in a state of cultural arrested development?

I like Lady Gaga. I think she's a really interesting artist.

[loveandpeace 2,251]

Yeah, we need new ideas. It doesn’t matter if they’re silly or weird. Creativity is dying out.

[Togekiss 3,180]

It’s actually worse, they only committed to distributing 30 movies a year, which means that could include an indie film they buy the rights to and show in a limited run for a week.

[Starmie25 22,853]

Least we got Coyote Vs Acme 

[JohnnyVersace 9,307]

I'm here for it when it's done well, but so many reboots have flopped. HBO Dune, And Just Like That, hell even the new Real Housewives of NY. You just can't always make magic twice 

 

[gagzus 25,454]

1 hour ago, ****oDanceFight said:

Do we think that these nostalgia-baits are because we cannot envision a future or future culture, so we regress to 20th/early 21st century cultural artifacts as a source of comfort, or is it because we are apprehensive to the calamity that the middle/end of what the 21st century will bring via climate change and social unrest, thus leaving us in a state of cultural arrested development?

I like Lady Gaga. I think she's a really interesting artist.

Nope it happens with every generation post-WW2, it happened with Boomers who longed for pre-war family culture, Gen Xers had nostalgia for the 60s/70s (which is why a lot of 60s/70s influence is on Pop music of the 80s and 90s) and the free love easy life culture, Millennials long for their childhoods for a pre-9/11 and social media world.

It will eventually happen to Gen Z (it already kind of is) and then Gen Alpha when Gen Beta arrives.

Plus the 20th/21st centuries were massive shifts culturally and progress for modern life, the progress beforehand and after has been relatively slow in comparison since the 20th century brought about pretty much everything related to modern life and technology, as the 20th century was an industry boom. The 19th and 18th century’s advances were predominantly focused on art and politics.

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[Red 99,620]

You speak of a “new” wave of nostalgia as if the current one has passed 

[gagzus 25,454]

4 minutes ago, Red said:

You speak of a “new” wave of nostalgia as if the current one has passed 

The current/last one did pass to a degree, that’s why Disney live action remakes, 80s/90s music sounds and TV revivals among other things fell off for a bit. Early millennial nostalgia died off and now we’re very much in late stage millennial/early Gen Z nostalgia. In 2025 the 2000s sounds started arising, Disney started getting it back with their Marvel hype for Doomsday/Secret Wars and now this merger is gonna flood us with another wave of reboots, remakes and offshoots of properties like no tomorrow. 

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[Red 99,620]

2 minutes ago, gagzus said:

The current/last one did pass to a degree, that’s why Disney live action remakes, 80s/90s music sounds and TV revivals among other things fell off for a bit. Early millennial nostalgia died off and now we’re very much in late stage millennial/early Gen Z nostalgia. In 2025 the 2000s sounds started arising, Disney started getting it back with their Marvel hype for Doomsday/Secret Wars and now this merger is gonna flood us with another wave of reboots, remakes and offshoots of properties like no tomorrow. 

As if the Disney remakes had flopped because of lack of nostalgia and not lack of quality

[gagzus 25,454]

6 minutes ago, Red said:

As if the Disney remakes had flopped because of lack of nostalgia and not lack of quality

It was arguably both, they ran out of nostalgic properties from the Renaissance to remake. That’s why they’ve now pivoted to more Gen Z/Alpha nostalgia with Pixar live actions and sequels for instance.

As a lover of Disney I can tell you I lost my nostalgia boner for the live action remakes quite fast when I realised they weren’t going to be faithful nor were they going to be actually “live action” really. The second they announced The Lion King it was over because it isn’t therefore live action, just an updated photorealistic animated movie. 

And a lot of other people I know felt this. We wanted Atlantis, Black Cauldron or some of their non-Renaissance movies as remakes instead. Movies that weren’t perfect in the first place.

The updating of the Snow White movie to not be faithful to original out of fear of people seeing it as misogynistic for example, and the hiring of “in” actresses at the time both ruining the quality and the nostalgia in one go.

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[Red 99,620]

4 minutes ago, gagzus said:

It was arguably both, they ran out of nostalgic properties from the Renaissance to remake. That’s why they’ve now pivoted to more Gen Z/Alpha nostalgia with Moana for instance.

As a lover of Disney I can tell you I lost my nostalgia boner for the live action remakes quite fast when I realised they weren’t going to be faithful nor were they going to be actually “live action” really. The second they announced The Lion King it was over because it isn’t therefore live action, just an updated photorealistic animated movie. 

And a lot of other people I know felt this. We wanted Atlantis, Black Cauldron or some of their non-Renaissance movies as remakes instead. Movies that weren’t perfect in the first place.

The updating of the Snow White movie to not be faithful to original out of fear of people seeing it as misogynistic for example, and the hiring of “in” actresses at the time both ruining the quality and the nostalgia in one go.

I never was a Disney kid so I basically only have watched the remakes from the  few ones I liked as a kid (Beauty and the Beast, Maleficent). I haven’t even watched Lion King yet  When I was an actual child the only things I truly cared about were Harry Potter, Brazilian novelas and a handful of movies and cartoons

[gagzus 25,454]

35 minutes ago, Red said:

I never was a Disney kid so I basically only have watched the remakes from the  few ones I liked as a kid (Beauty and the Beast, Maleficent). I haven’t even watched Lion King yet  When I was an actual child the only things I truly cared about were Harry Potter, Brazilian novelas and a handful of movies and cartoons

Honestly I recommend the original Renaissance movies from the 90s massively, they’re the best Disney movies probably ever. The Princess and The Frog was the last movie they did in that style in the mid 2000s and honestly I think if they invested in hand drawn animation again it’d make people massively obsessed with them. Because it’s a dying art in animation movies now.