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Lol, every single day I see new ways in which people pretends that the sludge coming out of faucets in predominantly black and brown neighborhoods just ✨️isn't happening✨️

Like you truly are so short sighted AND are misunderstanding what Generative AI is, which let's be clear. The tool helping you delete a background is NOT generative ai.

To constantly deflect the conversation to ai in the medical field and places where GENERATIVE ai is not being used is SO disingenuous.

If you want to claim to be on some kind of superior high horse because you use it in your career, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND DEFENDING I'm so excited for the rest of this conversation to happen. 🔔🔔🔔

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE

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On 9/22/2026 at 6:35 PM, JustJustan said:

imo gfy. I will never use AI for my design or art. AI is not a tool. It's a service, and it's theft. It also destroys our ecosystem. If you want to bootlick technofascism, that is your prerogative. Don't project your lack of abilities on me and my career. Thanks.

lmao wrong, AI is a tool that can be a service, repeat that! :messga:

also, you dont want to hear it, but you WILL need to use AI tools in your job in the future or you wont a job anymore. :cryga:

Get back to me in 2030 honey. :enigma:

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9 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

lmao wrong, AI is a tool that can be a service, repeat that! :messga:

also, you dont want to hear it, but you WILL need to use AI tools in your job in the future or you wont a job anymore. :cryga:

Get back to me in 2030 honey. :enigma:

Assistive AI yes. GenAI no. 

In fact tech analysts already predict that human created art will become more valuable in the next 10 years, with Graphic Design jobs becoming tech’s most profitable business by 2040, as people become opposed to the (rightfully abhorrent) GenAI usage plaguing everywhere. 

Plus in actual creative industries they have much stricter AI rules than they used to. I work two jobs— one in Design and one in Writing/Copy, now when you create something you HAVE to keep draft work as proof of process.

 

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8 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Assistive AI yes. GenAI no. 

In fact tech analysts already predict that human created art will become more valuable in the next 10 years, with Graphic Design jobs becoming tech’s most profitable business by 2040, as people become opposed to the (rightfully abhorrent) GenAI usage plaguing everywhere. 

Plus in actual creative industries they have much stricter AI rules than they used to. I work two jobs— one in Design and one in Writing/Copy, now when you create something you HAVE to keep draft work as proof of process.

 

Nonsense, Gen AI is equal to assistive AI (did we really create a new term to ease the plebs, lol).

Neural nets and assistive AI reach that status by using Gen AI in training.it's all predictions. I won't claim I'm an AI engineer, but I understand pretty well how it works.

And sure, AI is still an infant and the stigma is still huge for design, but in a few years' time that stigma will be gone(tthats why i threw around 2030), just like it's gone for coding now and to some extent gone from writing.

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and reading my post back, its obvious i dont use AI to spell check and grammar proof my ggd posts :icant: 

 

See, I'm pure. :queenga:

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On 9/19/2026 at 10:24 PM, lastpopicon said:

imo that mindset will hurt you in the future, don't get stuck up in ideology if you actually do design for a living and get paid for it, it's a dangerous mindset, AI is a tool, you can't possibily have such radical sentiments for a tool, that's very counter productive.

Have you ever heard of corridor key? It's an AI tool to helps artists with green screens, no more hours/days rotoscoping and keying, now if you want a background removed you just need to click 1 button.. and this is generative AI, but it's a tool at the end of the day, a tool to make artists lives easier. :messga:

are you comparing generative ai to the ai used in image/music software for years?  

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Just now, Purrrrrr said:

are you comparing generative ai to the ai used in image/music software for years?  

What tools/plugins are you referring too?

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11 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Nonsense, Gen AI is equal to assistive AI (did we really create a new term to ease the plebs, lol).

Neural nets and assistive AI reach that status by using Gen AI in training.it's predictions. I won't claim I'm an AI engineer, but I understand pretty well how it works.

And sure, AI is still an infant and the stigma is still huge for design, but in a few years' time that stigma will be gone(tthats why i threw around 2030), just like it's gone for coding now and to some extent gone from writing.

GenAI acts as a creator (from compiled sources) specifically for text, image, sound, video and code.

Assistive AI is a support enhancer and optimiser, for example a search engine, spellcheck and Find & Replace function in documents. Or a creative example is Chroma Key. 

They aren’t the same and no we didn’t invent new terms, Assistive AI has been a term since the 90s and Generative AI became a term in the mid 2010s…

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Just now, lastpopicon said:

What tools/plugins are you referring too?

im referring to tools that use AI to suggest fixes or etc to the work in the project, not the ai that responds back to you saying "sure no problem" and creates a whole image because you asked it to make you a video of a train going through a tunnel

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3 minutes ago, Purrrrrr said:

im referring to tools that use AI to suggest fixes or etc to the work in the project, not the ai that responds back to you saying "sure no problem" and creates a whole image because you asked it to make you a video of a train going through a tunnel

Yep, Chroma Keying is literally the oldest form of Assistive AI beyond spell checking.

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Just now, gagzus said:

GenAI acts as a creator (from compiled sources) specifically for text, image, sound, video and code.

Assistive AI is a support enhancer and optimiser, for example a search engine, spellcheck and Find & Replace function in documents. Or a creative example is Chroma Key. 

They aren’t the same and no we didn’t invent new terms, Assistive AI has been a term since the 90s and Generative AI became a term in the mid 2010s…

2 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Yep, Chroma Keying is literally the oldest form of Assistive AI beyond spell checking.

Idk about the 90's but modern AI tools you call neural nets or "assistive ai" are trained using gen AI, even the software I shared, sure, you can call it a neural net, but it was trained using predictions IE gen AI, Transformers use attention mechanisms, while Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) pit a generator against a discriminator to create realistic outputs. 

At the end of the day, they are using the same underlying technology.

6 minutes ago, Purrrrrr said:

im referring to tools that use AI to suggest fixes or etc to the work in the project, not the ai that responds back to you saying "sure no problem" and creates a whole image because you asked it to make you a video of a train going through a tunnel

Give me concrete examples. 

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Just now, lastpopicon said:

Give me concrete examples. 

Ngl i'm confused what you're asking now :air: 

If you have ever used a program to "analyse" something and it makes changes to it, that was ai

 

a concrete example for me, I use Izotope Ozone 11 for mixing/mastering music, it has an ai feature that analyses the music for the section i play and then figures out what it thinks it needs for it to sound better sonically (like the EQ adjustments or compression adjustments), I can then tweak the results it gives me, it doesn't create anything, it just adds and tweaks things that I myself can then tweak to what i think sounds right

that isn't the same as me asking a gen ai app to create me a song that sounds like etc

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8 minutes ago, Purrrrrr said:

Ngl i'm confused what you're asking now :air: 

If you have ever used a program to "analyse" something and it makes changes to it, that was ai

 

a concrete example for me, I use Izotope Ozone 11 for mixing/mastering music, it has an ai feature that analyses the music for the section i play and then figures out what it thinks it needs for it to sound better sonically (like the EQ adjustments or compression adjustments), I can then tweak the results it gives me, it doesn't create anything, it just adds and tweaks things that I myself can then tweak to what i think sounds right

that isn't the same as me asking a gen ai app to create me a song that sounds like etc

So, tools that do something for you, thats why I asked (and said plugins cause usually those do something for you).

There's a missunderstanding here, ofc you going to a chatbot and saying "create an image of lady gaga flying" is NOT the same as a tool doing something menial for you. 

This whole convo is because i'm lumping together "Gen AI", "Neural nets" and "Assistive AI" under one banner which is a fair argument by my side IMO.

With my argument, the software I shared to handle green screens is a neural net AI yes, but to reach that state gen AI was heavily used (predictions), you can't have one without the other. 

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and i'm sure im being branded worst things than katy perry atp, but honestly? I'm just trying to warn/inform people.

I saw my business almost implode in 2025 because of AI competition and my unwillingness to use it and that kind of hubris gonna hurt people.

I was very arrogant, don't be arrogant like me, keep up with the news, embrace the tools, learn how to use them, that might prove usefull in the future. :bye:

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