Celloo Deng 56,398 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 All this actually does is condemn women who wear burqas to stay in their homes and out of public spaces. Idiotic and cruel she/her 🖤 Gaga, Billie, MJ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 27,032 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 24 minutes ago, Sepsami said: Please do not speak to me about Trump blindness. I have nothing to do with that clown or the US in general. I do however know what goes on in my streets, my city and Brussels. I just think it would be a lot more productive to invite people to share their view and experiences, as people on here come from all over world. Slamming them as being racist, fascist or alt-right is unnecessary. This also goes beyond just politics, it's about ideology, identity and values aswell. I am absolutely going to call out people who repeat blatant alt-right dog whistles uncritically. If you don't like it, tough. And let's talk about Brussels. Because here again, blatant Trump blindness. You see the US as this anomaly rather than the norm for the West. You repeatedly try to dismiss the comparable groups & their political power within Europe. The Belgian federal government is led by De Wever. He's a right-wing christian nationalist who openly talks of his admiration for historical christian nationalist & right wing leaders. He is openly racist and has repeatedly supported bringing in Vlaams Belang into ordinary political structures and opposes the cordon sanitaire against the facist party. He has repeatedly held coalition partnership talks with VB. The Flemish government coalition also includes Christian social conservatives and is led by a PM from the same parter as De Wever. Walloon is also led by a right wing party which is increasingly observed as moving further right economically and socially by political experts. And MR has been shifting rightwards ever since the Swedish Coalition government era of 2014-2018. So yeah. Let's talk about your city and Brussels and how right-wing christians have no power in Belgium compared to dangerous and un-western Islam. The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 21,053 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, Bronco said: I am absolutely going to call out people who repeat blatant alt-right dog whistles uncritically. If you don't like it, tough. And let's talk about Brussels. Because here again, blatant Trump blindness. You see the US as this anomaly rather than the norm for the West. You repeatedly try to dismiss the comparable groups & their political power within Europe. The Belgian federal government is led by De Wever. He's a right-wing christian nationalist who openly talks of his admiration for historical christian nationalist & right wing leaders. He is openly racist and has repeatedly supported bringing in Vlaams Belang into ordinary political structures and opposes the cordon sanitaire against the facist party. He has repeatedly held coalition partnership talks with VB. The Flemish government coalition also includes Christian social conservatives and is led by a PM from the same parter as De Wever. Walloon is also led by a right wing party which is increasingly observed as moving further right economically and socially by political experts. And MR has been shifting rightwards ever since the Swedish Coalition government era of 2014-2018. So yeah. Let's talk about your city and Brussels and how right-wing christians have no power in Belgium compared to dangerous and un-western Islam. No clue where you got that information from but that is completely false. BDW has ALWAYS objected to working with Vlaams Belang exactly because they are a populsist party that are openly racist and even homophobic at times. BDW is the one that kept the cordon sanitaire as it is, never did he mention he was opposed to it. It has been a huge talking point in the past elections aswell. His Party never claimed to be Christian Nationalist, they are quite literally Flemish Nationalist with 0 inspiration that's taken from religion. CD&V is the party that is Catholic inspired and even that is just in name, their party leader is Sammy Mahdi who doesn't even call himself Christian. Anyone can do a quick google search about a topic and pretend they are nnow an expert because they read a paragraph of false information. But to say BDW is a racist that WANTS to work with Vlaams Belang is WILD. Any Flemish-Belgian will agree. This is the last comment I will make, do not ever tell me I'm blinded by Trump when you get your information from ChatGPT so you can try and win debate points on Gagadaily. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 27,032 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 40 minutes ago, Sepsami said: BDW has ALWAYS objected to working with Vlaams Belang exactly because they are a populsist party that are openly racist and even homophobic at times. BDW is the one that kept the cordon sanitaire as it is, never did he mention he was opposed to it. “I never subscribed to the ‘cordon sanitaire‘ and I was never a fan of it." A direct quote of his from 2019. https://www.euractiv.com/news/belgian-black-sunday-sees-far-right-surge-threatening-new-government-crisis/ And again here's a link where he openly said he will meet with VB as part of coalition talks in 2019. https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/belgium-all-news/57328/belgiums-far-right-not-ruled-out-of-potential-coalition 42 minutes ago, Sepsami said: This is the last comment I will make, do not ever tell me I'm blinded by Trump when you get your information from ChatGPT so you can try and win debate points on Gagadaily I'm calling you blinded by Trump because you repeatedly deny the world around us in Europe purely because its not as comically evil as Trump. You repeatedly try to make the claim that the West is better than Islam and repeatedly try to deny the reality of European politics by trying to argue anyone who disagrees with you is focusing to heavily on Trumpist America. And yet when people point out where you are wrong you ignore them. And now you're trying to brand me a liar and accusing me of using AI to do so. When the reality is, as I've repeatedly stated on this forum including in political threads you've got involved with in the past - I have a Politics degree. I don't need chatgpt, I know how to do my research and have a wealth of UK, European, American and International news sources to go to because I've been using them since I started my first politics course 14 years ago. The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 21,053 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 8 minutes ago, Bronco said: “I never subscribed to the ‘cordon sanitaire‘ and I was never a fan of it." A direct quote of his from 2019. https://www.euractiv.com/news/belgian-black-sunday-sees-far-right-surge-threatening-new-government-crisis/ And again here's a link where he openly said he will meet with VB as part of coalition talks in 2019. https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/belgium-all-news/57328/belgiums-far-right-not-ruled-out-of-potential-coalition I'm calling you blinded by Trump because you repeatedly deny the world around us in Europe purely because its not as comically evil as Trump. You repeatedly try to make the claim that the West is better than Islam and repeatedly try to deny the reality of European politics by trying to argue anyone who disagrees with you is focusing to heavily on Trumpist America. And yet when people point out where you are wrong you ignore them. And now you're trying to brand me a liar and accusing me of using AI to do so. When the reality is, as I've repeatedly stated on this forum including in political threads you've got involved with in the past - I have a Politics degree. I don't need chatgpt, I know how to do my research and have a wealth of UK, European, American and International news sources to go to because I've been using them since I started my first politics course 14 years ago. The ACTUAL quote: "I never subscribed to the cordon sanitaire and I was never a fan of it. But I have never been a fan of the party's style, of some of its exaggerated figures and positions. These two things, which were clear yesterday, are still clear today," The cordon sanitaire persisted because of him, Vlaams Belang is still in the opposition because of him. Because as the quote says, he concluded that they are still a racist and populist party. You can't just glaze over an article from 7 years ago, conclude someone is a racist and fascist and then move on when you are corrected. To see you spout such falsehoods about my country with such confidence is genuinely disturbing to me. Politics degree or not, a good debater does not need to wave around his degree to make his point. I will not be responding in here any further as this has become an entire circus. You lost all credibility. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 27,032 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, Sepsami said: The ACTUAL quote: "I never subscribed to the cordon sanitaire and I was never a fan of it. But I have never been a fan of the party's style, of some of its exaggerated figures and positions. These two things, which were clear yesterday, are still clear today," The cordon sanitaire persisted because of him, Vlaams Belang is still in the opposition because of him. Because as the quote says, he concluded that they are still a racist and populist party. You can't just glaze over an article from 7 years ago, conclude someone is a racist and fascist and then move on when you are corrected. To see you spout such falsehoods about my country with such confidence is genuinely disturbing to me. Politics degree or not, a good debater does not need to wave around his degree to make his point. I will not be responding in here any further as this has become an entire circus. You lost all credibility. The full quote still disproves you. You literally said the opposite of his actions. The only thing disturbing here is how desperate you are to defend racism. The gays know how to party 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,791 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 7 hours ago, Sepsami said: The ACTUAL quote: "I never subscribed to the cordon sanitaire and I was never a fan of it. But I have never been a fan of the party's style, of some of its exaggerated figures and positions. These two things, which were clear yesterday, are still clear today," The cordon sanitaire persisted because of him, Vlaams Belang is still in the opposition because of him. Because as the quote says, he concluded that they are still a racist and populist party. You can't just glaze over an article from 7 years ago, conclude someone is a racist and fascist and then move on when you are corrected. To see you spout such falsehoods about my country with such confidence is genuinely disturbing to me. Politics degree or not, a good debater does not need to wave around his degree to make his point. I will not be responding in here any further as this has become an entire circus. You lost all credibility. They're not the one who lost all credibility here though 😬 This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun li 3,056 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/24/2026 at 11:39 PM, Ladle Ghoulash said: @chun liWhat are we laughing about, sister? just how pathetic you sound Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy 14,523 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 TMBT 3.22.11 // TBTWB 1.17.13 // ArtRAVE 6.3.14 // C2CT 5.28.15 // TJWT 8.13.17 // CWT 9.8.22 // TMB 7.22.25 & 7.24.25 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junko Enoshima 4,663 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 here before this thing gets locked up My boobs are hopelessly huge 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,141 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 30 minutes ago, chun li said: just how pathetic you sound Right. Anyway, so what’s this little tantrum about, sister? Edited August 26 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 29,164 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flippy said: Ten minutes ago I almost commented "this should be good" but I stopped myself because even I am scared lol edit- nvmd, calm heads prevail Edited August 26 by NUTELLA 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Breast 6,731 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 The only upside to sh*t like this is reading the arguments here I was never gonna finish with all the Madonna pfps there were like sooo many why are you still reading yap yap yap sahur 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy 14,523 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 52 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: Ten minutes ago I almost commented "this should be good" but I stopped myself because even I am scared lol edit- nvmd, calm heads prevail Trust, discrimination will be dealt with. We have a zero tolerance policy on that TMBT 3.22.11 // TBTWB 1.17.13 // ArtRAVE 6.3.14 // C2CT 5.28.15 // TJWT 8.13.17 // CWT 9.8.22 // TMB 7.22.25 & 7.24.25 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevthepaparazzo 2,549 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 14 hours ago, Celloo Deng said: All this actually does is condemn women who wear burqas to stay in their homes and out of public spaces. Idiotic and cruel and is that really any better than laws in afghanistan? i feel like all extremism is kinda the same few words just in different fonts. also the same thing is happening down here. in australia our resident witch p**line h*nson wants to do the same thing and ban the burqa. she's been steadily rising in popularity as of late and i wouldn't be surprised in a few years a law like this is passed. Anything goes! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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