Israel attacks Turkish military assets in Syria

[Vimo 1,713]

2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Coincidentally, Trump also announces US withdrawal from NATO due to insufficient support from allies in his fruitless war with Iran 

 

Can't find this information anywhere. 

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[Ladle Ghoulash 54,583]

1 minute ago, Vimo said:

Can't find this information anywhere. 

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/18/israel-syria-turkey-strike-military-buildup
 

“Israel told the Trump administration its recent attack on a Syrian airbase was aimed at preventing a Turkish military buildup in the area, U.S. and Israeli officials said.“

[Vimo 1,713]

1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/18/israel-syria-turkey-strike-military-buildup
 

“Israel told the Trump administration its recent attack on a Syrian airbase was aimed at preventing a Turkish military buildup in the area, U.S. and Israeli officials said.“

Talking about the US leaving NATO.

[PartySick 173,312]

1 hour ago, Ziggy said:

I hope as many as it takes for their delusion to shatter their reality

Pretty brave of them considering the only thing keeping Israel from being steamrolled is their ability to say "my friend will beat you up" and the sentiment in said "friend" is turned on them so fast Trump endorsed Republicans and AIPAC funded Democrats just lost last night in Florida.

By the 2030s, could be the US values NATO more than they value a proxy state/military base in the Middle East.

Then what do they have? Damn near every nation and group from Northern Africa to Southern Europe and as far East as the Himalayas ready to pounce?

[gagzus 23,741]

3 hours ago, Shadow said:

If Israel attacks Turkey, a NATO ally, would Europe respond? 

To put it bluntly no. A lot of Western Europe has allegiances to Isreal because of political relationships over the years. 

Nobody will intervene against them whatsoever unless they actively sent ground forces to start a war into a European country. That’s the only reason anyone will ever stop them.

Mostly out of a fear of world war, that’s the general rule, avoid world wars at all cost. But Israel clearly wants to wipe out any Muslim centric country. Even if they took over Palestine we wouldn’t intervene.

Hypothetically they could take over every country in the Middle East and Africa and we wouldn’t care until it expanded into Europe or larger Asia.

Basically we don’t respond until wars are started on first world country superpowers like Western Europe, North America, China or Russia.

It was the same in WW2, we knew to some degree what the Nazis were doing in Germany, but we didn’t act until they moved ground troops into Poland. Because that’s the general rule at the UN, they ONLY consider action if you send in ground forces. It’s how most nations get away with wars, because they’re primarily fought through bombings. It’s a loophole.

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3 hours ago, 27monster27 said:

US leaving NATO, and Israel attacks Turkish forces, which are serving a NATO country. I fear for this world.

Trump cannot unilaterally pull the US out of NATO, it would require approval by 2/3 of the senate which will never happen.

[Ladle Ghoulash 54,583]

1 hour ago, Vimo said:

Talking about the US leaving NATO.

Trump says it in the clip. Obviously not something he can do unilaterally, but he basically says, “if they don’t have our backs, we don’t need to have theirs” (and he’s floated trying to get the US out of NATO multiple times since the beginning of this term)

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13 minutes ago, Concertaholic said:

Trump cannot unilaterally pull the US out of NATO, it would require approval by 2/3 of the senate which will never happen.

 

10 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Trump says it in the clip. Obviously not something he can do unilaterally, but he basically says, “if they don’t have our backs, we don’t need to have theirs” (and he’s floated trying to get the US out of NATO multiple times since the beginning of this term)

Okay this actually makes more sense. Instead of leaving the alliance, he will likely just refuse to abide by its treaty terms then. It's interesting that he is choosing to do this as Israel has attacked units from a NATO country. It makes you think... 

[Ziggy 14,159]

3 hours ago, PartySick said:

Pretty brave of them considering the only thing keeping Israel from being steamrolled is their ability to say "my friend will beat you up" and the sentiment in said "friend" is turned on them so fast Trump endorsed Republicans and AIPAC funded Democrats just lost last night in Florida.

By the 2030s, could be the US values NATO more than they value a proxy state/military base in the Middle East.

Then what do they have? Damn near every nation and group from Northern Africa to Southern Europe and as far East as the Himalayas ready to pounce?

Yeah I think they vastly overestimate AIPAC’s ability to land a candidate bc atp Israel is part of the alt right conspiracy pipeline and once you’re there you’re cooked in U.S. politics