Iran will no longer negotiate with Trump, plans to wait out his term

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44 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said:

2 more years of a clog on the Strait will bring a global collapse on oil and gas prices...

Won't even take 2 more years. 
It'll be before the midterms if things get any worse/end of the year if things stay at their current level. 

3 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Obviously yes. Trump never wanted this war to end, I can't even imagine how frustrating this whole process must be for Iran.

Not as frustrating as you'd think. 

The IRGC has effectively removed the religious leaders from defacto power and totally defanged the wider political leadership. They've been able to implement far harsher controls on the civilian population at a time when the mercantile class was the biggest risk factor for the Iranian status-quo. And they've humiliated their biggest enemy & one of the world's 3 super powers by completely neutering the American offensive. 

Trump's given Iran over to its extremists & shown them and the world that Iran has a far more dangerous weapon on hand than any theorized nuclear capacity via their control of the Hormuz strait and the Iran-backed Houthi's ability to cause similar shut downs through the Red Sea, Bab-el-Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Aden which the Middle Eastern nations were using to circumvent the strait of Hormuz where possible. 

And whats worse for Trump, even if he could get a deal signed and sealed tomorrow - Iran caused enough damage to production facilities in the middle east that it will take years for production to return to pre-war levels. Which will absolutely prevent prices falling to pre-war levels. 

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Time to buy electric vehicles, ladies!!!

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cant say i blame them

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LOL honestly a good idea given the volatility of this administration

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24 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Tbh Trump absolutely wants the war to end, he just can’t negotiate it in a way that doesn’t make it look like he lost lol

Or in a way that reconciles what Iran wants and what Israel wants. If Iran sues for peace at this point, they’re going to push for guarantees for Palestine, which doesn’t fit with Israel’s plan to occupy and settle Gaza and the West Bank. They don’t even want to deoccupy Lebanon. 

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37 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Tbh Trump absolutely wants the war to end, he just can’t negotiate it in a way that doesn’t make it look like he lost lol

You know damn well he'll just tell on TV that he won and his supporters will say "amen" 

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6 minutes ago, Lucas said:

You know damn well he'll just tell on TV that he won and his supporters will say "amen" 

He’s already claimed he’s won the war multiple times and I think the delulu is running thin because his supporters are paying for it at the gas pump lmao. Dude thinks reality works like TV and I think Iran is one of the first times where the rubber of his narrative has met the road of reality in a way that he can’t convincingly BS his way out of.

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28 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

He’s already claimed he’s won the war multiple times and I think the delulu is running thin because his supporters are paying for it at the gas pump lmao. Dude thinks reality works like TV and I think Iran is one of the first times where the rubber of his narrative has met the road of reality in a way that he can’t convincingly BS his way out of.

Whats funny is watching MAGA politicos like Krenshaw try using their age old "just stop <insert city food here>" schtick and the MAGA base are kicking off at them.

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2 hours ago, Bronco said:

Won't even take 2 more years. 
It'll be before the midterms if things get any worse/end of the year if things stay at their current level. 

Not as frustrating as you'd think. 

The IRGC has effectively removed the religious leaders from defacto power and totally defanged the wider political leadership. They've been able to implement far harsher controls on the civilian population at a time when the mercantile class was the biggest risk factor for the Iranian status-quo. And they've humiliated their biggest enemy & one of the world's 3 super powers by completely neutering the American offensive. 

Trump's given Iran over to its extremists & shown them and the world that Iran has a far more dangerous weapon on hand than any theorized nuclear capacity via their control of the Hormuz strait and the Iran-backed Houthi's ability to cause similar shut downs through the Red Sea, Bab-el-Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Aden which the Middle Eastern nations were using to circumvent the strait of Hormuz where possible. 

And whats worse for Trump, even if he could get a deal signed and sealed tomorrow - Iran caused enough damage to production facilities in the middle east that it will take years for production to return to pre-war levels. Which will absolutely prevent prices falling to pre-war levels. 

Ya know, I thought I was a strict morosexual - that I was exclusively attracted to real dumb himbos. 

But this post educating me like this has awakened something, I think I might be a Teacher's Pet. I see a whole new world before me 

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LMAO good for Iran. 

Little Marko and couch potato Vance couldn't negotiate a ceasefire. Maybe if they'd read the art of the deal... wait... 

I can't believe I root for Iran.

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29 minutes ago, Laxy said:

I can't believe I root for Iran.

Well, lbr we're rooting against Trump.

Iran's strength is that the people in power literally don't care how many of their own people die. They could shrug off millions of dead Iranians 'cause nothing threatens their hold on power now and probably won't until yet another generation of Iranians grows up to oppose them.

Hopefully the US doesn't f*ck it up for them again like Trump did this time.

Had we just let that one f*cker die of old age the people would have been in a position to snatch at least more fair leadership and Iran could progress  but of course, that doesn't work for the US and Israel.

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2 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Had we just let that one f*cker die of old age

Still genuinely can’t believe how naive Trump was to think that killing the Ayatollah would somehow topple the regime. As if there isn’t…a line of succession? Like c’MON

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1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Still genuinely can’t believe how naive Trump was to think that killing the Ayatollah would somehow topple the regime. As if there isn’t…a line of succession? Like c’MON

I feel like that was definitely part of the equation somewhere. Whether he knew it or not, idk

He definitely thought he could just drop the weight/threat of the US military on Iran and they'd roll over but they're classic Joker mode sociopaths over there, they don't care  

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Just now, PartySick said:

I feel like that was definitely part of the equation somewhere. Whether he knew it or not, idk

He definitely thought he could just drop the weight/threat of the US military on Iran and they'd roll over but they're classic Joker mode sociopaths over there, they don't care  

It’s giving Putin assuming Ukraine would roll over in a weekend, but infinitely worse 

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Wait, but I thought this was just a...

 

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