LG‘s Strongest Lead Single (Lyrically Speaking) … ?

[Ladle Ghoulash 51,449]

4 hours ago, SleepingSun said:

They sound terribly cheesy and awkward to me  Like she tried to be extremely artsy, eloquent and smug, but ended up sounding like a toddler spewing random words they think are 'high class'

Native English speaker: that’s how they sound to me too lmao. I don’t mind the affected pompous tone because I think that’s intentional, but I just think the lyrics themselves are nowhere near as clever as she thought they were at the time lol

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5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I know we’ve discussed it, but that lyric is just the corniest, clunkiest strawman version of a Gaga hater lmao. No one ever said “Gaga’s too nostalgic!” And then following that with “I’m just more well-read/educated” is even lamer, imo. If you’re going to engage haters in a front facing way, at least be honest about what people are saying about you and go for the jugular. Most of the the dunks she gets in on Applause are not only clunky, but the supposed “payoff” is usually completely unearned. That being said, I actually love the vocal affectation, the musical fusion of a new wave sensibility and classic eurodance, and the music video is stellar. But the lyrics to the verses really don’t do it for me lol.

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Bad Romance by far. The lyrics are just so unique and creative, and ICONIC, peak Gaga touch.

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6 minutes ago, DESTROY UR DISEASE said:

Clearly some of us don’t like to read 

Edited 22 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

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8 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Clearly some of us don’t like to read 

yeah, you definitely don't

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23 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Native English speaker: that’s how they sound to me too lmao. I don’t mind the affected pompous tone because I think that’s intentional, but I just think the lyrics themselves are nowhere near as clever as she thought they were at the time lol

Thanks, that's a relief! And I am also agreeing with you on the tone, as well as the overaccentuated way she sings parts of the verses. That's just typical Gaga, I like it! The lyrics just aren't up to par, to put it nicely 

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8 minutes ago, DESTROY UR DISEASE said:

yeah, you definitely don't

You just told me a paragraph was too long for you to read 

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Bad Romance is the best pop song ever created

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3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

You just told me a paragraph was too long for you to read 

but ur the one who said that Applause is stupid

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1 minute ago, DESTROY UR DISEASE said:

but ur the one who said that Applause is stupid

That’s not what I said 

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29 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

That’s not what I said 

who cares, it's the same thing

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Lyrically I think the Stupid Love verses are great 

Overall I feel that Chromatica does a good job at conveying big and complicated emotions through its lyrics even if the music doesn’t back them up.

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39 minutes ago, hamartia said:

Lyrically I think the Stupid Love verses are great 

Overall I feel that Chromatica does a good job at conveying big and complicated emotions through its lyrics even if the music doesn’t back them up.

Yeah, I feel like the lyricism on Chromatica gets a lot of unnecessary heat. For an artist who usually layers emotions in a couple levels of metaphor, it was refreshing to hear straightforward, simple lyrics tbh. I think laying it bare/unvarnished and letting it be imperfect was a valuable exercise for her

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2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I know we’ve discussed it, but that lyric is just the corniest, clunkiest strawman version of a Gaga hater lmao. No one ever said “Gaga’s too nostalgic!” And then following that with “I’m just more well-read/educated” is even lamer, imo. If you’re going to engage haters in a front facing way, at least be honest about what people are saying about you and go for the jugular. Most of the the dunks she gets in on Applause are not only clunky, but the supposed “payoff” is usually completely unearned. That being said, I actually love the vocal affectation, the musical fusion of a new wave sensibility and classic eurodance, and the music video is stellar. But the lyrics to the verses really don’t do it for me lol.

I do want to go back and read what we wrote at the outset, for the sake of sheer curiosity, and because I know your thesis remains consistent, while my perspective (while still Applause-affirming) has likely shifted … I was thinking about it a bit more after the thread … and then, I just stopped thinking about the lyrics so much … particularly the operative lyric (“I’ve overheard your theory, “nostalgia’s for geeks!” / I guess, sir, if you say so, some of us just like to read…”) … and then I was just like … why do I like that lyric … why do I admittedly feel some sense of unironic lyrical allegiance to that expression … I couldn‘t quite articulate it, but I felt the affinity all the same … that said, what did surface was the sense … and practical reality … that that lyric is quintessentially ARTPOP … not only because it is clearly a signature reference from the definitive lead single, so by necessity it carries distinct significance … but/and, moreover, it is the polarization of this admitted attempt to marry the erudite “well-read/educated” artiste posturing and the “corny” common denominator of mainstream pop … it leans into its own sophomoric bourgeoisie bricolage … the tone feels so very “I know you are but what am I?” … it feels Manhattan Catholic school girl speaking Hollywood to Middle America from the soapbox of a Tisch dropout … “some of us just like to read…” Kant, some Steinbeck, some hooks, some TMZ or People magazine, some like to read Pitchfork or ONTD … no one said Gaga‘s too nostalgic, but the insinuation was not ever too far removed from “how derivative … can pastiche be coherent … who is she cosplaying now …” … no one said Gaga‘s too nostalgic, but Bach and Pop can coexist in sonic composition and chord arrangement … and Rilke can live on the arm of the girl who‘s gonna drink those tears tonight … if you‘re gonna engage haters, speak their language, echo their antagonisms … she‘s speaking the unspoken assumption on both of their behalf … she‘s too pretentious with the intention to be pop and not precise enough with the pen to be art … that‘s the problem with ARTPOP … that‘s the flaw in formation … that‘s the VMA Paparazzi death on stage revisited as a shoddy attempt to write the critics into shame … she wrote it because she had to, if only to say it was done … whether or not that was the intention at the outset, ARTPOP becomes ARTPOP over time … and what a ramshackle record this lil‘ ode to ovation continues to fail into its own fruition …

 

That said, I honestly just went stream-of-consciousness after the first few lines, so I can‘t vouch for any relevant sense articulated in the aforementioned … but … as always, much appreciate the discourse … and, as always [2], y’know just salt grain musings into the airwaves … ARTPOP 

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8 hours ago, Tranquil said:

I would love to vote for Born This Way but the word "chola" was a literal wtf moment, and not in a good way  

Which lead got your vote instead??