Did Gaga ever use bots/payola?

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I wonder if she had cheated like KP and Tay do, how much bigger she would be.

 

because I always thought it was weird that KP and Tay pulled ahead of Gaga commercially after about 2013.

sonically Prism was a letdown too and 1989 was not seen as the juggernaut like it is today. 
 

In that particular era Prism was technically a huge letdown compared to Teenage Dream and 1989 had 3 big singles but the rest kinda mid-flopped. They tried to make Wildest Dreams a hit and it flopped. 

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I hope she doesn't . Also, calling Tay using bots is not sensible imho. She sold out stadiums, and in some cases times three. Her stream numbers are most likely legit. Unlike KP who is very obvious lmao

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1 hour ago, Monstermilo said:

the only thing close to that is when they made born this way 99 cents the first week and 400-500k of the first week sales were from those albums bought for 99 cents 

i think thats the only time her and her team have cheated or did something to drastically increase sales 

her team didn't do that, amazon did

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4 hours ago, Bronco said:

I'd be genuinely surprised if Just Dance & Pokerface didn't get some payola to help them take off. It was so normal back then and she had so much label backing, I'd be shocked if they didn't. 

I don’t know about Just Dance.. It was a sleeper hit and took 8 months to hit number #1. I think the label backing happened after she became successful

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6 hours ago, LGAte said:

1989 was not seen as the juggernaut like it is today. 
 

1989 had 3 big singles but the rest kinda mid-flopped. They tried to make Wildest Dreams a hit and it flopped. 

off topic, sorry

but this is just false lmao

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Yes. Everything is paid. She hasn't been relevant since 2009, desperately trying to hold onto her fame, she's lucky she can pull the numbers she has even with all the fake streams. #LadyXerox #LadyFraudga #flopga

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It's so hard to tell, because when she debuted was such a hustler, and even though she was everywhere, people wanted more. 

I dooo remember though when Born this Way came out, stations were playing it every hour on the hour. My theory would be that IF there was something like that going on, it was probably directly from the label and she didn't explicitly know about it. 

but whooo knows

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8 hours ago, Monstermilo said:

the only thing close to that is when they made born this way 99 cents the first week and 400-500k of the first week sales were from those albums bought for 99 cents 

i think thats the only time her and her team have cheated or did something to drastically increase sales 

This was actually nothing to do with Interscope or Gaga, it was part of a deal Amazon was doing to promote their then-new digital music service and had a massive list of albums that were all down to 99cents for new users, Born This Way just happened to be part of it but what people dont talk about is so was the likes of Teenage Dream and even Justin Bieber’s album at the time.

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I don't think she's done anything outside the standard radio payola that all new/successful acts get. She's never indulged in tactics like reducing the price of her songs if they were close to #1 or releasing rent a rapper remixes or putting out limited edition variants like some people we could name.

I'm so glad she never engaged with that ridiculous pre-order system we had for a few years in the UK before on air/on sale and streaming took off. When people still downloaded singles, the UK introduced a pre-order that would accumulate sales for 3 months on average and then on release week, the singer would get thousands of sales and debut at #1. It was an utter farce for a few years and I kept track of as many artists as I could who got #1's this way so they could be marked as fraudulent. It seemed everyone, even big names, were doing it and as much as I hated it, in 2013, when I thought Gaga would never get a #1 again, that she would have to give in and use it. But then streaming made the system obselete and she had the great honour of being one of the few who never used it. So it's great to know all her hits are genuine.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if she did. 

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i think the labels all do it to an extent, but idk gaga herself just strikes me as the type of person to throw diamonds into lava when you give them to her too early in minecraft 💀

edit: i can LITERALLY imagine her minecraft char crouching and slowly inching towards a pool of lava holding a little monster's diamonds while maintaining eye contact lmaooooo

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7 hours ago, gagzus said:

This was actually nothing to do with Interscope or Gaga, it was part of a deal Amazon was doing to promote their then-new digital music service and had a massive list of albums that were all down to 99cents for new users, Born This Way just happened to be part of it but what people dont talk about is so was the likes of Teenage Dream and even Justin Bieber’s album at the time.

"Instead of taking the loss, Amazon negotiated with Gaga's label, Interscope/Universal, and paid the label's full wholesale price of $7 per album." no matter what whether she or her team did or didnt initiate it, she benefitted from discounted album sales. 

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20 hours ago, TheOriginalOne said:

She needs to 

And we need to learn how to set up streaming farms to secure a 10 million opening week 

We are too lazy for that

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12 hours ago, Zombiecat said:

off topic, sorry

but this is just false lmao

It really isn’t. 1989 was not some hit factory like The Fame/Monster and Teenage Dream. 
 

After Shake it Off, Blank Space, and Bad Blood it doesn’t have any MEGA HITS. 
 

maaaybe Style but that was overtime on streaming and later. genuinely at the time even Style didn’t do very well.l compared to the other singles.
 

in terms of cultural ubiquity 1989 has always been on the level of Born This Way more than TFM. 
 

It was 3 songs that got big radio play and I know her sales are big but that’s because she has a loyal fanbase. Outside of her (large) fanbase she doesn’t really resonate with people or culture.

 

i wish people understood this about Taylor. Of all the artists, outside of her die hard fans she is a flop. She doesn’t have a casual listener the same way casual listeners will listen to Gaga and Bey.

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1 hour ago, LGAte said:

It really isn’t. 1989 was not some hit factory like The Fame/Monster and Teenage Dream. 
 

After Shake it Off, Blank Space, and Bad Blood it doesn’t have any MEGA HITS. 
 

maaaybe Style but that was overtime on streaming and later. genuinely at the time even Style didn’t do very well.l compared to the other singles.
 

in terms of cultural ubiquity 1989 has always been on the level of Born This Way more than TFM. 
 

It was 3 songs that got big radio play and I know her sales are big but that’s because she has a loyal fanbase. Outside of her (large) fanbase she doesn’t really resonate with people or culture.

 

i wish people understood this about Taylor. Of all the artists, outside of her die hard fans she is a flop. She doesn’t have a casual listener the same way casual listeners will listen to Gaga and Bey.

"outside of her die hard fans she is a flop"  - Her "die hard fans" out number even casual listenership for Gaga & Bey unfortunately. She's pulling 43 million daily streams at the moment vs Gaga's 13.7 million and Beyoncé's 9.7 million. And that's at a time where all 3 are in off-album eras. She's the 2nd most streamed artist of all time on Spotify, Gaga ranks at #35 and Beyonce is #41. 

 Like yeah Gaga does very well with casuals through DWAS/Shallow/ARUTW and Pokerface, but even with that support she's not matching Taylor Swift's "non-casual" numbers. So if Taylor is flopping with 43m daily, what are Gaga and Bey doing?