gagzus 23,330 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 18 minutes ago, andy232000 said: Im 50/50 on this. I could entertain the idea that KPop is distinctive and big enough to have its own category, but racializing it rubs me the wrong way. In the end its just pop in korean, truest inclusion would be for it to compete in the normal categories. Its the same case when they made Contemporary Country Album a thing. While it could be inclusion in a sense that its giving them a table on the room, its also simultaneously saying you can't sit with the "normal western acts". I get both sides I get that, i've personally never really entertained K-Pop or J-Pop and the only songs i've heard just sound like rehashes of old western Pop/R&B and Dancepop music from the early 2000s or early 2010s. BTS fans also had a massive crash out when they (deservedly) lost a GRAMMY to the biggest collab of that year (Gaga & Ari). I think the inclusion of a new category is just telling of the times, that there's clearly enough music for all these new categories to be recognised. Also can't wait for Gaga to win Best Traditional Pop Vocal Performance and Taylor will probably win in the Folk category too at some point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 60,236 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, gagzus said: it's been news for 5 minutes and i've already seen multiple tweets about how this is xenophobia and that they should be nominated in the main categories. Tbf it is a form of gatekeeping and exclusion 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon 1,540 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, andy232000 said: Most of these are kinda unessesary. Best Asian Performance seems like a cop out because the Academy refuses to recognize Kpop in their typical categories. Its segregation disguised as progress lowkey. Most k-pop songs suck so why should they be nominated for a grammy? When something good comes out from k-pop field maybe they will nominate it 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 13,218 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, Simon said: Most k-pop songs suck so why should they be nominated for a grammy? When something good comes out from k-pop field maybe they will nominate it Well, some people like to push for inclusivity for the sake of it. I agree that Kpop hasn't been strong enough in the past to compete against western acts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 42,720 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 The Best New Artist category change is just because they want Ella Langsley to win it, isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 6,310 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, TaylorSwift said: Best Asian Pop Music Performance This category recognizes excellence in Asian pop music performances originating from or widely recognized within Asian markets, including but not limited to K-pop, J-pop and C-pop, with meaningful use of one or more Asian languages. Awards are presented to the performing artist(s). Best Latin Song This category recognizes the achievement of songwriters for newly written Latin songs predominantly in the Spanish language (at least 51% of the lyrics). Awards are presented to the songwriter(s) of new material. Best R&B Collaboration or Duo/Group Performance Jazz, Traditional Pop, Contemporary Instrumental & Musical Theater Field/ This category recognizes excellence in contemporary R&B performances (vocal or instrumental) for works by established duos or groups, as well as collaborative works between solo artists, duos and groups. Awards are presented to the performing artist(s). With the addition of this new category, the Best R&B Performance category has been revised and renamed Best R&B Solo Performance. Best Traditional Pop Vocal Performance This category recognizes excellence in singles and tracks that consist of a type and style of song and/or performance that cannot properly be intermingled with present forms of pop music. Awards are presented to the performing artist(s). Best Traditional Folk Album This category recognizes excellence in albums of traditional folk recordings. Traditional Pop Vocal Performance when Harlequin already lost her only chance to get a Grammy Any of the songs on that album should've had an opportunity Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 6,310 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 6 hours ago, Melbourne Monster said: The Grammys introducing Best Traditional Pop Vocal Performance the year after Harlequin is just rude She better release Happy Mistake or something else as a single and pull a Wildflower 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xardas 1,950 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, Melbourne Monster said: The Grammys introducing Best Traditional Pop Vocal Performance the year after Harlequin is just rude Gaga should go Mariah route just for a while to show them a bit of her impact on the ceremony IG: @bartoszprazuch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 15,592 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On the downside, the best pop vocal performance has come around way too late in the day for Gaga (she'd have at least one per jazz project at this point) but on the bright side, she's bound to win more further down the line as this is a genre she will keep dipping her toe into. And let's face it, Gaga is the main reason why this award was developed in the first place. She's built this award. That has to count for something. As for the Asian performance, yes, the separation of them from regular pop categories does feel like unintended racial segregation which is very awkward. Its been invented just so their devoted fans can be placated and stop with the accusations that the academy's racist for not nominating them all this time. There may well be a bit of controversy when almost all the nominees are bound to be east Asians with no sign of Asians from other regions, which will make it blatantly clear that this is a k/j-pop award. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 42,720 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 It's funny how some of these rules change from time to time and Gaga would've won one the year before they change them. Best Traditional Pop Vocal Performance - Happy Mistake and songs from Cheek To Cheek and Love For Sale Best Dance Album - The Fame won this, they changed the rules to DJs so The Fame Monster won Pop Vocal but this could've been a win for Born This Way and ARTPOP. It'd have been Chromatica vs. Future Nostalgia if this were 2021 but it took Beyoncé to release Renaissance for them to change this back to popstars again. Best New Artist - Gaga got sabotaged because she had been nominated the year before for Just Dance. They changed this rule the year after she should've won. Now look at the new rule that you can submit an artist for a 4th time. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lickitung 230 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Gaga if you're seeing this and you have any unreleased song with tony, pls release it now, it would be meaningful to have him as the first winner of this new category Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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