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Siena
21 minutes ago, Melbourne Monster said:

I’m afraid she’s never actually received constructive criticism (or ignore it) because so many people tell her she’s wonderful 

exactly lol also this is one of the reasons I am never able to view her as a true artist. Real artists and musicians are constantly trying to improve themselves and learn, basically they are always a student. Taylor clearly just cares about growing in terms of numbers and charts. 

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Melbourne Monster
8 minutes ago, Siena said:

exactly lol also this is one of the reasons I am never able to view her as a true artist. Real artists and musicians are constantly trying to improve themselves and learn, basically they are always a student. Taylor clearly just cares about growing in terms of numbers and charts. 

You sum her up perfectly, like it’s all about the product 

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Ladle Ghoulash
9 hours ago, Oriane said:

Best band of all time yes

Shocking that anyone would view this as even remotely controversial, but the children are illiterate, I fear 

We have forgotten our public MANNERS
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Jtn8
On 6/10/2026 at 8:50 AM, Ladle Ghoulash said:

“I like the pig who goes to space” :Cautious:

She’s still shading Katy?

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PartySick
4 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

Well yeah, sorry, The Beatles aren’t exactly monsters of talent lmaooo

I beg to differ :partysick: 

But their real claim to fame is that they were innovators of the craft. In pop music, they're up there with MJ as blueprints for a reason. 

Taylor isn't only a mediocre musician and predatory capitalist, she's contributed/contributing nothing revolutionary or new to music as a whole.

For someone who's "worth $2 billion" she's quite literally the definition of worthless as far as artists go.

Whimsical bitch
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PartySick
2 hours ago, Bonkers said:

I'm terrified someone might not realize that was the point I was making.  

I think she would have carved out a career in any era, a below average singer could always produce a good pop song in a studio. Nothing the Beatles did really hinged on voice or performance, but they were a much more real type of creator that Taylor Swift is in my opinion.  Her talent seems to be dumbing down the IDEA of pop music for ultra neurotypical people, and it turns out that's a big audience.

I don't find it surprising at all that she's successful - but her level of success is astonishing given her limitations.  I find it fascinating how willing she is to expose herself as someone who can't really sing.  Because she CAN style a vocal in a studio.

For sure! I'm not personally a Beatles fan really but the tricks they were pulling with analog recording equipment to make the unique sounds they made were literally revolutionary.

And they were actually good singers and musicians :nails: 

Matter of fact, it's interesting but Paul McCartney is partially responsible for MJ's Thriller being so successful. They pushed their collab as the lead single to lull the white fans and largely white outlets into a false sense of security only for all those little white kids to pop their Thriller vinyls on the deck, hit play, and be assaulted by some of the funkiest sh*t they'd ever hear :giveup:

As for Michael's stardom, he really hit his stride at the perfect time culturally. Not only could he be the one to harness his star power to shatter racial barriers he hit his peak at a time where media had proliferated the world without being segregated by algorithms like it is today.

That kind of stardom will never happen again 'cause that environment was unique and capitalized on by exactly the right star :diane:

I don't know my original point...

Taylor sucks :neyde:

Whimsical bitch
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