Ziggy 13,774 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) Honestly I think an unspoken part of this is that the devil wears Prada isn’t like Kiki fan wagging ballroom cinema. So a song with all that feels odd compared to fashion from COAS bc there it’s just empty, vain and fun. But why are you saying you’re born for the runway, you can do it empowerment when that’s not the movie at all? So it feels more pandering in that regard given that it’s kinda random and *feels like manufactured virality or marketing efforts rather than simple commercial fare ala hold my hand or even the “low brow” ASIB tracks. Basically it feels cynical Edited May 1 by Ziggy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 49,897 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, Ziggy said: Honestly I think an unspoken part of this is that the devil wears Prada isn’t like Kiki fan wagging ballroom cinema. So a song with all that feels odd compared to fashion from COAS bc there it’s just empty, vain and fun. But why are you saying you’re born for the runway, you can do it empowerment when that’s not the movie at all? So it feels more pandering in that regard given that it’s kinda random and *feels like manufactured virality or marketing efforts rather than simple commercial fare ala hold my hand or even the “low brow” ASIB tracks. Basically it feels cynical Yeah, but the world of drag/ballroom lingo and the world of runway fashion have been increasingly entwined for the past 30+ years, so I don’t really see it as being unrelated (especially when you consider how many queer creatives have worked in the fashion industry like Andre Leon Talley and his work at Vogue in the 80s and 90s). If anything, it’s really more just a synthesis of those two worlds. You can argue it’s culture vulture-y, but I do think, even if it’s a bit “cringe,” it feels more like a fun/light to that association than it feels like anything cynical or bad faith. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Breast 5,979 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I think everyone is taking shlt way too seriously ABRACABULGARANGA 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Rae 17,961 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 lol the discourse on X over this song and video from gay men claiming two queer women are pandering to gays is so funny to me sitting on his lap sipping diet pepsi 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 49,897 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Addison Rae said: lol the discourse on X over this song and video from gay men claiming two queer women are pandering to gays is so funny to me I literally saw someone comparing it to Taylor’s YNTCD bandwagoning and it’s like…Lady Gaga? The woman who was in the trenches using her platform to advocate for queer rights well before queer aesthetics had been corporatized? That Lady Gaga is queerbaiting? Right. Edited May 1 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliie 1,965 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Parody? Drag? Please!!! Excuse me TikToker reporter, this is the soundtrack for a fun campy movie. She is the type of girl that goes to Gay Brunch and complains about everything and everyone and gets thrown out for being too drunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 13,774 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Yeah, but the world of drag/ballroom lingo and the world of runway fashion have been increasingly entwined for the past 30+ years, so I don’t really see it as being unrelated (especially when you consider how many queer creatives have worked in the fashion industry like Andre Leon Talley and his work at Vogue in the 80s and 90s). If anything, it’s really more just a synthesis of those two worlds. You can argue it’s culture vulture-y, but I do think, even if it’s a bit “cringe,” it feels more like a fun/light to that association than it feels like anything cynical or bad faith. Oh I don’t think it’s in bad faith but I think every aspect of this movie’s marketing has been a cynical ploy which is a shame since I hear the movie itself is quite good. They’re intertwined, yeah, but I think the movie itself was for straight women who wouldn’t be in that world at all. That’s more my thing. Fashion is a part of that but I don’t think DWP is and the movie is also more a movie about industry than fashion, expressly. But I think it being a semantic difference like that is what can allow you to make what’s a harmless and kind of simple faux pas 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EART HL I NG 949 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Look, I’m not a big fan of the song. However, it’s just meant to be a campy song for a comedy about fashion. It isn’t that deep and in the end it achieves what it set out to do. Everyone needs to relax ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 6,863 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 15 minutes ago, Ziggy said: the movie itself is quite good. Not even that, lmao. But neither was the first TDWP tbh, what hurts is to just see the downgrading of it all I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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