Economy 52,844 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/trump-says-hes-been-rejected-by-nato-most-allies-to-join-mission-to-secure-critical-strait-of-hormuz Trump on Tuesday fummed at NATO again after failing to gain support on his request for aid to secure the Strait Of Hormuz Trump further elaborated he is not surprised and says the US spends Hundreds of Billions of dollars on NATO but never gets anything in return. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayhem 3,426 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I truly believe if China or Russia attack the US...NATO will NOT come to our aide... The US is viewed as a global enemy now and losing long-standing allies. Add that Trump's Counterterrorism Director just quit...yeah...we're cooked 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 11,254 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Who can blame us after the way he and his allies have spoken about Europe for the past year? He's been telling us that Russia is our problem, and we need to handle it ourselves. So all this is is Europe and Canada telling him that Iran is his problem, and he needs to handle it himself. "through all the tears and all the lies, i'm gonna dance until i feel alright" 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 31,111 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said: I truly believe if China or Russia attack the US...NATO will NOT come to our aide... The US is viewed as a global enemy now and losing long-standing allies. Add that Trump's Counterterrorism Director just quit...yeah...we're cooked As an european I think that if Russia attacked UE (and therefore NATO), Trump would actually help Russia there are many signs over the last decade that make me think Trump has some kind of plan with Putin 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said: I truly believe if China or Russia attack the US...NATO will NOT come to our aide... The US is viewed as a global enemy now and losing long-standing allies. Add that Trump's Counterterrorism Director just quit...yeah...we're cooked Hes always full of sh*t. If hes so close to winning the war why does he need allies to help so badly? Anyways NATO was meant to be an alliance for defence and co-operation One theres no self defence here since the US attacked first, frankly mostly unprovoked. Secondly there was no co-operation either, Trump decided to do this himself without consulting any of the alliance and now expects everyone to just step in with a war they dont even agree with This on top of the fact hes been insulting other Developed Nations non stop that he doesnt need us for anything and that the US is better off on its own etc Guy is a literal bafoon. Its unfortunate the US is so divided that someone like him can manage to be elected (twice). We know at least half of America has brains and common sense but the other half is really concerning . 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 31,111 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Economy said: (twice) this one single word holds so much darkness I've been thinking a lot lately about people voting for fascism and how humans basically never learn their lesson. So much that I'm genuinely thinking another world war is a lesson that humans maybe actually need... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lucas said: this one single word holds so much darkness I've been thinking a lot lately about people voting for fascism and how humans basically never learn their lesson. So much that I'm genuinely thinking another world war is a lesson that humans maybe actually need... Tbh I think the first time was more understandable. Ppl were fed up with lack of change, he was slightly less extreme the first time around during campaigning, and theres always been bigots who like his rehtoric or ppl who maybe dont but thought he might he good for economy... It was still sad that so many fell for him the 1st time but maybe slightly less surprising. But then we all saw his Presidency and it was irrefutable how despicable (and stupid) a human being he is. Voting him in a 2nd time is what was truly perplexing to me Edited March 17 by Economy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,023 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 14 minutes ago, Lucas said: this one single word holds so much darkness I've been thinking a lot lately about people voting for fascism and how humans basically never learn their lesson. So much that I'm genuinely thinking another world war is a lesson that humans maybe actually need... well if we're in another proper world war, i dont think we're living it down so idk about all that lol no one left to apply the lesson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,376 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 The tariff situation has caused a lot of hate towards the US in Europe, so it's not about the war, which most of the leaders agrees with behind closed doors, it's about teaching Trump a political lesson: you're not all powerful and don't treat your allies like sh-t. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 24,959 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 He truly doesn't understand Nato. And as for this idea we do nothing for the US. Article 5 has only ever been triggered once in the history of Nato. By the US, to go into Iraq. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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