faysalaaa 5,336 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 53 minutes ago, BrandyFinest said: What is it with this idea that Israel controls the "poor wittle United States" thats just literally not how it works. Israel functions as a colonial outpost for us, with or without israel, we would still be terrorizing the middle east. We were an imperialist power long before the Israeli state, our nation only exists cuz of colonialism And to be quite honest this is just another form of subconscious American exceptionalism. People are so unwilling to confront the fact that America is an imperialist power that they now need to pin the sole blame on Israel, and yes **** israel but **** America, AKA israel's lifelong parent. Im Middle Eastern so obviously I know America is an imperialist power that does what it wants. But Israel also has influence on American politics for religious and political reasons. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: True but before Trump it seems diplomacy was being achieved and military action was always outside. It has accelerated into this directly after his presidency. Isnt military action without diplomacy always what America did in the Middle East forever? Every president has to do it, I think Biden is the only one that did not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 3 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said: I think Trump had several reasons for doing this unique to his situation. He ruined the economy so bad that the military industrial complex is holding it up alongside AI. Doing this will allow more cash infusion into those companies. Obviously the same lobby also influenced that. Conveniently this all happened at the same time DHS funding was coming up. Domestic terror threats is a convenient excuse to pressure Congress into an elevated DHS budget that will allow them to further spy/control its own citizens. Same exact thing Obama did if not worse Edited March 7 by faysalaaa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousEden 621 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Can he stop killing all the hot Middle Eastern men over there just cause he looks like disgusting moldy cheetos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 So much for peace in the middle east 💔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,662 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 12 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: Isnt military action without diplomacy always what America did in the Middle East forever? Every president has to do it, I think Biden is the only one that did not. Yes, but I meant directly with Iran. Even Biden bombed the Middle East: ”Yes, the Biden administration has conducted multiple airstrikes in the Middle East, primarily targeting Iran-backed militia facilities in Syria and Iraq, as well as Houthi targets in Yemen. These actions began in February 2021 as retaliation for attacks on U.S. personnel . These strikes were described as "proportionate" and aimed at protecting U.S. forces.” But my main point was regarding Iran, it has always been smaller scale military conflicts with Iran backed groups. Obama and the Iran nuclear deal were achieving diplomacy and nuclear monitoring before Trump destroyed that in his first term. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 45,337 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Please PLEEEEEEASE I PROMISE I won't turn into Light I swear I will use it sparingly Just drop it Ryuk please it will be sooo interesting I know you're bored I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Yes, but I meant directly with Iran. Even Biden bombed the Middle East: ”Yes, the Biden administration has conducted multiple airstrikes in the Middle East, primarily targeting Iran-backed militia facilities in Syria and Iraq, as well as Houthi targets in Yemen. These actions began in February 2021 as retaliation for attacks on U.S. personnel . These strikes were described as "proportionate" and aimed at protecting U.S. forces.” But my main point was regarding Iran, it has always been smaller scale military conflicts with Iran backed groups. Obama and the Iran nuclear deal were achieving diplomacy and nuclear monitoring before Trump destroyed that in his first term. Oh sorry, then yes I completely agree with you. I thought we were talking about the Middle East in general. Although I think Iran was always part of the plan, but was last on the list of countries to destroy. Edited March 7 by faysalaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,194 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Americans and specially Democrats are such cowards for keeping this degenerate psychopath on power after all the **** he has done. Americans are the louder on internet about revolution and stuff like that but in reality they don't do **** for themselves and their country, it's like they think they can meme the whole thing out. Edited March 7 by NemoMyName 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayhem 3,428 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 24 minutes ago, NemoMyName said: Americans and specially Democrats are such cowards for keeping this degenerate psychopath on power after all the **** he has done. Americans are the louder on internet about revolution and stuff like that but in reality they don't do **** for themselves and their country, it's like they think they can meme the whole thing out. It's Republicans who will regret putting him in power...they thought they could control the puppet but forgot he still is highly unpredictable and a malignant narcissistic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,912 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 hours ago, BrandyFinest said: What is it with this idea that Israel controls the "poor wittle United States" thats just literally not how it works. Israel functions as a colonial outpost for us, with or without israel, we would still be terrorizing the middle east. We were an imperialist power long before the Israeli state, our nation only exists cuz of colonialism And to be quite honest this is just another form of subconscious American exceptionalism. People are so unwilling to confront the fact that America is an imperialist power that they now need to pin the sole blame on Israel, and yes **** israel but **** America, AKA israel's lifelong parent. I mean, in this case, Israel did legitimately drag the US into war with Iran lol. Israel is a rogue state that likely ran a blackmail operation on many powerful US political figures, that runs a massive lobbying effort for preferential treatment in Congress (not to mention that Rubio basically admitted that the Israel dragged the US into the war). That doesn’t change that Israel was born out of US imperialism, but I do think that the dynamic is one where Israel can twist the US’ arm to get what it wants. There’s basically no benefit for the US to be involved with Iran. The military operation will end up costing $100B in defense spending and probably trillions in damage to the global economy. The only reason the US is involved is because A.) Israel probably has Epstein related kompromat on Trump and B.) Trump is essentially bought and paid for buy Israel. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw773 4,366 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 hours ago, Bronco said: Plus its more fun to find ways to say it without saying it I saw a post where someone said “would you want to be woken up in the middle of of the night to hear The News if it happened?” And someone responded with “b—— you can wake me up from the middle of surgery if “It” happened. I might need a hero to save me from breaking Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,965 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, NemoMyName said: Americans and specially Democrats are such cowards for keeping this degenerate psychopath on power after all the **** he has done. Americans are the louder on internet about revolution and stuff like that but in reality they don't do **** for themselves and their country, it's like they think they can meme the whole thing out. I'm not exactly sure what you expect Americans to do? I'm envious that European countries control themselves when it comes to retaliating against protests and such. And I'm sure we see different news reporting but I'm also sure both Americans and foreign countries saw that this administration was sending a government entity into cities and using that government entity to murder its own citizens. As well as deploying the National Guard to be used against its citizens. This administration and both parties are corrupt and the citizens have very limited, if any, power to change anything. So they can "meme it out" as you say or they can face the ugly truth and we just see a huge spike in suicide rates. 4 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I mean, in this case, Israel did legitimately drag the US into war with Iran lol. Israel is a rogue state that likely ran a blackmail operation on many powerful US political figures, that runs a massive lobbying effort for preferential treatment in Congress (not to mention that Rubio basically admitted that the Israel dragged the US into the war). That doesn’t change that Israel was born out of US imperialism, but I do think that the dynamic is one where Israel can twist the US’ arm to get what it wants. There’s basically no benefit for the US to be involved with Iran. The military operation will end up costing $100B in defense spending and probably trillions in damage to the global economy. The only reason the US is involved is because A.) Israel probably has Epstein related kompromat on Trump and B.) Trump is essentially bought and paid for buy Israel. Trump sees personal gain from this too. He ruined the economy with tariffs and is now leaning into the military industrial complex to prop up the stock market. DHS funding was lapsing and there was pressure to increase the budget due to increased terror threats. Plus the insider trading stemming from this must be immaculate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,643 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, NemoMyName said: Americans and specially Democrats are such cowards for keeping this degenerate psychopath on power after all the **** he has done. Americans are the louder on internet about revolution and stuff like that but in reality they don't do **** for themselves and their country, it's like they think they can meme the whole thing out. What do you suggest we do? Protest? 😭 that does nothing. We have the right to peaceful protest which basically just means we get to complain, but it doesn’t really do anything. Theres no immediate solution. We have to power through and wait until our next leaders turn and hope that the vast majority of other Americans agree with whoever we decide will lead the best. I just hope whoever it is can bring and end to all of this nonsense and madness. I know I’m really lucky to live here, and have my general safety and freedoms to live how I want, but it is stressful asf over here watching our president put us and the world in dangerous situations that we do not want to be with nor worrying about wether or not I’m gonna wake up to news that our country just wiped out 1 million people while Im sleeping over some sh!t that has nothing to do with any of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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