Mark Carney Close To Majority Government: 3rd Conservative MP Defects To Liberals

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxd495pvy5o

 

A 3rd MP Conservative has just defected to the Liberals led by Mark Carney. The Liberals now have 169 seats, needing only 1 more seat for a majority government

 

3 floor crossings less than 1 year after n election is virtuallt unprecedented in Canadian History

 

Some Conservatives remain unhappy with Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre who is seen my many as not serious enough to fix issues and only knows to criticize and play political games. Hes also reportedly difficult to work with among his party and bossy

 

Meanwhile Mark Carney boosts one of the highest approval ratings of any Canadian Prime Minister in a long time

[Economy 52,854]

Mark Carneys approval rating hits 64%

https://cultmtl.com/2026/01/mark-carney-approval-rating-approve/

 

Thats a very high rating considering Canada has 3 relevant parties not 2 like USA which splits more support

Edited February 19 by Economy

[monstertoronto 11,744]

He really was the correct choice. Moderate enough to convince less extreme conservatives to be able to cross the floor without feeling embarrassed or hating themselves. I think a similar type of person would be perfect to run for the Democrats in the states. 

[Bronco 25,129]

16 minutes ago, monstertoronto said:

He really was the correct choice. Moderate enough to convince less extreme conservatives to be able to cross the floor without feeling embarrassed or hating themselves. I think a similar type of person would be perfect to run for the Democrats in the states. 

I think the issue in the states is that the political divide is way more partisan and extreme. 

At least from an outsiders viewpoint, Canada's not got the same level of polarisation as the US. 

A moderate candidate running a moderate platform is like the worst option in the US because it fails to secure the base while also not doing enough to win crossover. 

 

[monstertoronto 11,744]

16 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I think the issue in the states is that the political divide is way more partisan and extreme. 

At least from an outsiders viewpoint, Canada's not got the same level of polarisation as the US. 

A moderate candidate running a moderate platform is like the worst option in the US because it fails to secure the base while also not doing enough to win crossover. 

 

You’re right, Canada is not nearly as polarized as the US. There’s a wide range of beliefs obviously but nothing as extreme as what’s happening in the IS right now. What you say makes sense, but I just thought if the Democrats had someone sane that could also appeal to moderate Republicans who don’t like what’s happening right now, maybe they could win that way. But I certainly don’t know enough about US politics. 

[Jill 31,812]

45 minutes ago, monstertoronto said:

He really was the correct choice. Moderate enough to convince less extreme conservatives to be able to cross the floor without feeling embarrassed or hating themselves. I think a similar type of person would be perfect to run for the Democrats in the states. 

The only real long-term solution for relative stability in the US is full on balkanization, which will happen eventually and will not be a divide between Republicans and Democrats. Probably an external thing, I don't know. But the US is a loose cannon in every sense of the word and we already passed the point of no return.

Edited February 19 by Jill

[Bronco 25,129]

2 minutes ago, monstertoronto said:

You’re right, Canada is not nearly as polarized as the US. There’s a wide range of beliefs obviously but nothing as extreme as what’s happening in the IS right now. What you say makes sense, but I just thought if the Democrats had someone sane that could also appeal to moderate Republicans who don’t like what’s happening right now, maybe they could win that way. But I certainly don’t know enough about US politics. 

The US has a 4 way partisan split going on these days. And the Democrats have only managed to tackle it once off the back of Trump 1. 

They need a candidate who can secure their moderate blue no matter who base (which isn't too difficult) but who doesn't aggrivate the very fickle left wing vote which requires a bit of leftwing populism. While at the same time being able to pull votes from the right wing moderates or right wing populist voter groups - which becomes difficult as they try to keep left wing populists on side. 

That said, they have had some success in off year elections with candidates like Mahmdani & Spanberger who lacked the negative central democratic party baggage and were able to peel off right wing populist support by speaking to the key economic issues that is driving both left & right wing populism in the US. 

I think the best hope we have in 2028 of a Democratic win is a lesser known state level name who's able to run without the baggage of the core Democratic party elite. Aka we need a new Obama.

[monstertoronto 11,744]

34 minutes ago, Bronco said:

The US has a 4 way partisan split going on these days. And the Democrats have only managed to tackle it once off the back of Trump 1. 

They need a candidate who can secure their moderate blue no matter who base (which isn't too difficult) but who doesn't aggrivate the very fickle left wing vote which requires a bit of leftwing populism. While at the same time being able to pull votes from the right wing moderates or right wing populist voter groups - which becomes difficult as they try to keep left wing populists on side. 

That said, they have had some success in off year elections with candidates like Mahmdani & Spanberger who lacked the negative central democratic party baggage and were able to peel off right wing populist support by speaking to the key economic issues that is driving both left & right wing populism in the US. 

I think the best hope we have in 2028 of a Democratic win is a lesser known state level name who's able to run without the baggage of the core Democratic party elite. Aka we need a new Obama.

That’s well explained. I haven’t seen someone like that emerge. I keep seeing Newsome, who is not a Obama. And apparently Americans in the middle states hate the coasts, so they wouldn’t want a California candidate? 

[27monster27 15,866]

50 minutes ago, Jill said:

The only real long-term solution for relative stability in the US is full on balkanization, which will happen eventually and will not be a divide between Republicans and Democrats. Probably an external thing, I don't know. But the US is a loose cannon in every sense of the word and we already passed the point of no return.

Independent New England when?

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,056]

17 minutes ago, 27monster27 said:

Independent New England when?

I’m SAYING. Bitch, set us FREE from the South‼️

[Economy 52,854]

8 hours ago, Bronco said:

I think the issue in the states is that the political divide is way more partisan and extreme. 

At least from an outsiders viewpoint, Canada's not got the same level of polarisation as the US. 

A moderate candidate running a moderate platform is like the worst option in the US because it fails to secure the base while also not doing enough to win crossover. 

 

I think one thing that helps Canada not be as polarized as the US despite some simmilarities in culture is:

 

- less money in politics, so donor class has less bribing power relative to US

- our news networks are a little more balanced ans neutral vs US networks they always hardcore favour one or the other side

 

But the biggest thing is I think our social divide has generally been more muted. Most political disagreements are on economic policy while social policies are a bit more tame

 

In general most people were always supportive of immigration (took some hit in recent years tho due to housijg crisis and insane population growth but that hit also happened with centrists and leftists too not just right wing). Most either support stuff like LGBT or if they dont, they are generally not as vocal as US counterparts about it and its not their main priority in elections

 

There is the typical left is more concerned with Environment, or how much we need tk emphasize First Nations accomodations/reconciliations etc than the Right wing but again the divide is not US level

 

So the main bigger disagreement is mostly economic i find