elsamars 6,143 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: So you copied and pasted a previous reply of yours without addressing the content of my post. Also: in what world do you deserve an apology here? You made a series of hardline moral accusations because someone disagreed with you and now you expect an apology…for what? You said I don't have a right to speak because I'm not living in the states while I'm living in Minneapolis. What is the moral accusation I made? "When you don't speak up, when you don't protest, when you don't show any reaction, it becomes a part of every day life. It becomes normalized. When it happens to you one day and when no f*cking one gives a damn about you, you'll understand what it means. You'll understand how labeling things "performative" was dangerous. " If you are talking about this and turning this into a PeRsONaL AtTAck, you're so f*cking ridiculous. a wolf in sheep’s clothing is deadlier than an honest foe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 35,318 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 2 minutes ago, elsamars said: You said I don't have a right to speak because I'm not living in the states while I'm living in Minneapolis. What is the moral accusation I made? "When you don't speak up, when you don't protest, when you don't show any reaction, it becomes a part of every day life. It becomes normalized. When it happens to you one day and when no f*cking one gives a damn about you, you'll understand what it means. You'll understand how labeling things "performative" was dangerous. " If you are talking about this and turning this into a PeRsONaL AtTAck, you're so f*cking ridiculous. Cool. I don’t know you personally and last time you commented, I was sure you said you were in Saudi Arabia. Sorry that you’re offended that I don’t know where you live and based my knowledge of that on that last piece of info I had about it. Anyway, sorry that you can’t handle civil disagreements and insist on having public meltdowns when people disagree with you. Wishing you well. Edited January 25 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsamars 6,143 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: I was sure you said you were in Saudi Arabia. I have never said such a thing. a wolf in sheep’s clothing is deadlier than an honest foe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,277 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 27 minutes ago, Obobo said: The thing is social media and news outlets are echo chambers. Most of her followers already politically align with her and all she would do is stroke their egos and be validation for people that need it from celebrities for some reason. The social media accounts and news outlets that don’t align with her opinion would blow it up and skew her message in a way that makes them even more Pro ICE and Trump. Heck we all know they’ll be digging up her **** that liberals and leftists don’t like. theres literally no positive other than “yasss my queen agrees with me purrr!!!” That's ridiculous. Getting a powerful statement in front of millions of people is effective. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 35,318 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, elsamars said: I have never said such a thing. Was fairly certain you said that when you were defending comedians performing for the Saudi crown, but I guess I’ll coddle you again and apologize for the misunderstanding. Once again, wishing you well. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 53,352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 social justice doesn't feel the same as it did back in the 2010s social media is infested with right wing bots, ai generated false media, propaganda that's poisoning the minds of our older relatives... I actually feel if gaga went to Russia and screamed "arrest me!!" again, it would be far more dangerous idk it feels so much more scarier... even this one guy at work who's from Afghanistan was telling me how he thinks trump has a good mindset and i had to explain to him trump would instantly view him as a dangerous immigrant, no questions asked but he wasn't getting my point... mother, what must i do? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 3,740 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Bonkers said: That's ridiculous. Getting a powerful statement in front of millions of people is effective. So Zara Larson got viral for her anti ICE posts. What happened after that? ICE and Trump are still here doing worse than ever before. All it did was create some love and hate tweets for her… maybe a couple more streams on Midnight Sun as well. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 35,318 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Obobo said: So Zara Larson got viral for her anti ICE posts. What happened after that? ICE and Trump are still here doing worse than ever before. All it did was create some love and hate tweets for her… maybe a couple more streams on Midnight Sun as well. If anything, the Trump admin uses celebrity engagement to amplify the “owning the libs” narrative like they did with Sabrina Carpenter. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 18,188 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 32 minutes ago, Obobo said: The thing is social media and news outlets are echo chambers. They have options besides just posting on Instagram. They could go on radio. TV. Drop a statement during an awards acceptance speech like Gaga did last year. There are so many possibilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASKALE 664 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Bronco said: Because they're sell outs. They only cosplayed as activists when it was easy, when it was a PR spot and good album promo. Now that it comes with the risk of a cost they aren't interested. They don't want to get their hands dirty. Their life doesn't get any worse under Trump, when Renee & Alex were killed nothing in their life changed. They actively benefit under the Trump presidency, they pay less tax and their incomes have never been better. They have zero reason to stick their neck out. This post is presumptuous to the max. “All rich people are complacent” is as classist as “all old people are ugly” is ageist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsamars 6,143 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Was fairly certain you said that when you were defending comedians performing for the Saudi crown, but I guess I’ll coddle you again and apologize for the misunderstanding. Once again, wishing you well. I understand maybe you confued with someone else. I am having a meltdown because labeling speaking up as performative boils my blood. Yes, I live in Minneapolis and there are other things I don't want to disclose on this forum. I can't express how anxious it is to even go out of street. Just when we thought nobody is speaking up and all this silence is deafening, reading a post like this especially in GGD is so heartbreaking. Speaking matters a lot. Even when you think it won't make a difference, it can change a lot of people's lives. It can give courage and will to live and fight. a wolf in sheep’s clothing is deadlier than an honest foe 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 17,548 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 @Creyk logged in today & said 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 16,901 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, YASKALE said: This post is presumptuous to the max. “All rich people are complacent” is as classist as “all old people are ugly” is ageist. They aren't complacent. They're complicit. Also, classism against the rich isn't a bad thing. Trying to argue you can be classist against the millionaires and billionaires is like trying to say the KKK could be victims of racism in southern american. The gays know how to party 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrangea 6,639 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Silence is violence Put your paws all over me 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwayunic0rn 303 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I have to say, it really hurts my heart knowing what’s happening in the USA and not seeing Gaga, Beyoncé etc say anything at all. People are being murdered and having their rights taken away and the least they could do is post on social media and/or make a statement. I think a lot of people are looking to the pop girls because a lot of there work is political and they usually are voices to marginalised people (POC, LGBTQ+) just look at BTW and Cowboy Carter. Now they aren’t saying anything at all and it’s starting to build tension and resentment within fan bases. 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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