Gaga hills you will die on

[dynamite 62,693]

2 minutes ago, Head Empty said:

and forced one of our mods to repeat "it's not country" for more than 10 years after release.

[Head Empty 25,663]

Just now, elsamars said:

She secretly loves to see people suffer.

Which reminds me:

She did those song explainers for Chromatica. When explaining the lyric "Your monsters torture me" she said someting along the lines of "Of course I don't mean Little Monsters"

She sure as hell did

Little Monsters torture her and she said it to our face 

I don't blame her 

[Head Empty 25,663]

4 minutes ago, dynamite said:

I'm not naming an-hee-hee names.

[Taumaturg0 874]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

 

But the concepts were cool. If she revisited the album now, worked on it with anyone other than Bloodclot, and rewrote some lyrics (and finished writing certain songs like the snippet of Alice that made the album ) it'd be good  

 

Do we all agree that Chromatica deserved to be a visual album ? it has a very clear storyline

[Taumaturg0 874]

15 minutes ago, elsamars said:

She secretly loves to see people suffer.

don't we all ?

 

[elsamars 5,023]

Just now, Taumaturg0 said:

don't we all ?

 

Not kindness punks afaik

Edited Friday at 09:29 PM by elsamars

[River 121,018]

I still find it funny when her fans are dying on the "music not the bling" hill, when on the same album she sings about being rich like Donatella Versace and then "it's alright because I am rich as piss" on MJH. 

loving the music and not the bling doesn't mean that she's doesn't like to earn money and have a quality of life equal to her peers 

[bim 555]

1 hour ago, Anderson123 said:

Disease deserved Bad Romance level of impact and attention. It's one of those songs that elevates your discography. 

Bless your sweet soul. I could not agree more. I will gladly die on this hill with you.

[bim 555]

2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Many fans take her brand as deathly serious and “c*nty” when the project has been hamfisted and camp from the jump and fans only selectively apply the “it’s cheesy” argument when it applies to a type of cheese they don’t like. She’s closer to Meatloaf meets a drag version of Madonna than she’ll ever be to someone like Björk (and she’s well aware of this).

Yes, yes, yes to this. Her campy side is one of my absolute favorite things about her. Meatloaf meets drag Madonna made me lol. It’s so true. 

[Ziggy 12,590]

She makes very middle of the road, nice jazz music that by no means impacts the genre, but her presence brings a little visibility. it was not some starved genre, though, before that. it's beautiful and vibrant.

2000s hip hop and RnB influenced her sound more than she and others are aware of and ill say it's bc they're all white lol

her success was way more accidental than we give it credit for. She was trying basically ANY sound early on. It's part of why I think she's historically struggled to define who and what Gaga is. To her it came by happenstance, to the world it came fully formed persona. I think that she was able to sell that mythos of bulletproof persona is incredibly commendable.

Britney has no daughters, but she does have a wayward niece in Gaga whose early career was very much built in large part in response the spectre of britney's downfall and the culture around it. Really fascinating relationship between the two of them.

Born This Way does not have to be her technically best album for it to be her best. It is her best and most unique and distinctive artistic statement.

Sadly, DWUW is better with R. Kelly. But in another world, a michael jackson version would have been next level.

 

[Ladle Ghoulash 33,636]

Just now, Ziggy said:

She makes very middle of the road, nice jazz music that by no means impacts the genre, but her presence brings a little visibility. it was not some starved genre, though, before that. it's beautiful and vibrant.

2000s hip hop and RnB influenced her sound more than she and others are aware of and ill say it's bc they're all white lol

her success was way more accidental than we give it credit for. She was trying basically ANY sound early on. It's part of why I think she's historically struggled to define who and what Gaga is. To her it came by happenstance, to the world it came fully formed persona. I think that she was able to sell that mythos of bulletproof persona is incredibly commendable.

Britney has no daughters, but she does have a wayward niece in Gaga whose early career was very much built in large part in response the spectre of britney's downfall and the culture around it. Really fascinating relationship between the two of them.

Born This Way does not have to be her technically best album for it to be her best. It is her best and most unique and distinctive artistic statement.

Sadly, DWUW is better with R. Kelly. But in another world, a michael jackson version would have been next level.

 

Her space in jazz has always felt more in the brassy, Judy Garland Broadway school (though I do actually think she sings legit jazz far more competently than Judy) and I feel like Harlequin, in treating her interest in jazz less as genre study and more as a theatrical sandbox she could play in and mix with other genres, is probably her most interesting contribution to the genre (and probably one of the most interesting things she’s done musically period). 
 

I think 2000s hip hop and R&B is really only a sonic throughline on TF and a little bit of TFM, no? I’ve always seen her relationship to that subgenre as being largely related to her role as a pop industry writer writing in that style because it was popular at the time she was signed and, like I said, while it’s all over TF, it feels less relevant to her work with each subsequent release. I’ve always thought her relationship to 70s-80s funk/disco and 90s pop R&B felt more relevant to her sound, but that’s just me. 

[LUST FOR GAGA 58]

shes a pop artist. shes not as experimental as fans think which is ok. 

[spookytanooki 1,216]

Chromatica is her best album

Edited Friday at 10:29 PM by spookytanooki
Never in my life have I listened to an album as many times as I have this one

[Ziggy 12,590]

1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Her space in jazz has always felt more in the brassy, Judy Garland Broadway school (though I do actually think she sings legit jazz far more competently than Judy) and I feel like Harlequin, in treating her interest in jazz less as genre study and more as a theatrical sandbox she could play in and mix with other genres, is probably her most interesting contribution to the genre (and probably one of the most interesting things she’s done musically period). 
 

I think 2000s hip hop and R&B is really only a sonic throughline on TF and a little bit of TFM, no? I’ve always seen her relationship to that subgenre as being largely related to her role as a pop industry writer writing in that style because it was popular at the time she was signed and, like I said, while it’s all over TF, it feels less relevant to her work with each subsequent release. I’ve always thought her relationship to 70s-80s funk/disco and 90s pop R&B felt more relevant to her sound, but that’s just me. 

Agree on the Harlequin part. I really like a lot of her jazz, i just find it crazy when monsters act like she resuscitated the genre lol

I think I see it on BTW and ARTPOP as well. BTW had sounds like BM and HML, yes, but I also think in it shaped her songwriting itself! It's why to me even when she isn't expressly dabbling in it, there's certain monikers of it formed from her time as a songwriter pre-solo fame. her hook writing, for instance, carries a really strong rhythmic sense to it. She definitely has more overt affinity for the stuff you mentioned, but I think basically through the era she was coming up and cultural osmosis, she is a big descendant of hip hop and rnb, too. Just less overtly. Kind of like how Bowie said To Pimp a Butterfly inspired Blackstar. It's not remotely a hip hop album, but you can hear where certain things creep in from the inspo

[AndiGaga 7,036]

She made the best song ever with Abracadabra, i dont think any song will ever top that

Alice is one of her worst songs, Plastic Doll is a horrendous song, Free Woman and Sour Candy are also bad. The rest of Chromatica is GREAT, but 4 bad songs is too much for an Album to be a great body of work

Joanne aged SO WELL!