Gaga, Bey, Taylor, etc called out after new artist takes on Ticketmaster

[Ladle Ghoulash 29,854]

4 minutes ago, Ashley said:

“Ticketmaster initially replied: “We support artists’ ability to set the terms of how their tickets are sold and resold. @OliviaDeano, we will cap resale prices on our site at face value and hope other resale sites will follow.”

Why don’t they just do this for all ticket sales? If they can cap resale prices for one artist why can’t that be the default? 

That’s answered by the first line of their reply: “We support artist’s ability to set the terms of how their tickets are sold and resold” meaning that artists *can* opt out, but they have to choose to. 

[Ashley 9,766]

22 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

That’s answered by the first line of their reply: “We support artist’s ability to set the terms of how their tickets are sold and resold” meaning that artists *can* opt out, but they have to choose to. 

I assumed that was referring to dynamic pricing, which we’ve known already the artist can opt out of.

I don’t see why it would be up to the artist to put a cap on resale tickets, when they don’t make the profit from the resales, the scalper does.

[RAMROD 111,528]

2 minutes ago, Ashley said:

I assumed that was referring to dynamic pricing, which we’ve known already the artist can opt out of.

I don’t see why it would be up to the artist to put a cap on resale tickets, when they don’t make the profit from the resales, the scalper does.

Artist can do that too, Billie Eilish is one example, with only allowing resale on Ticketmaster and not above the face value. While Kylie Minogue and Lorde not allowing resale altogether.

[Ashley 9,766]

Just now, RAMROD said:

Artist can do that too, Billie Eilish is one example, with only allowing resale on Ticketmaster and not above the face value. While Kylie Minogue and Lorde not allowing resale altogether.

I understand that, my question was just why not make it the norm with all ticket sales lol.

[Ladle Ghoulash 29,854]

8 minutes ago, Ashley said:

I assumed that was referring to dynamic pricing, which we’ve known already the artist can opt out of.

I don’t see why it would be up to the artist to put a cap on resale tickets, when they don’t make the profit from the resales, the scalper does.

Agreed that artists shouldn’t have to opt out of that, but that’s Ticketmaster passing the buck to the artist because they wanna make a percentage off of the exorbitant resale prices. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[Ivy 13,052]

I realized I don't understand how it works with inflated prices. I thought most of the extra money went to the seller 

[Anderson123 39,500]

14 hours ago, elsamars said:

Can you guys be more empathetic? They need more money to support their luxurious lives. I support Gaga ripping her fans off if that’s what it takes for her to thrive her lifestyle. I’m sorry I love seeing her happy in her expensive clothes. 

If only that money went to music videos. 

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[Agunimon 142]

Gaga and Taylor have weddings to pay for!!

And Beyoncé needs to fund Tidal.

Please understand!

[Emvee 8,552]

The whole tour situation has been a huge disappointment. Good for this new artist for exposing how others CHOOSE to scam their fans. Or at the very least think there’s nothing wrong with it. 

[Bronco 14,094]

2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

But people made their bed when they chose streaming over physical, and now they have to lie in it 

People didn't choose streaming over physical. 

The industry deliberately introduced streaming to fight back against pirate sites like limewire which gained such prominence because the industry decided to make its primary market an audience with limited access to funds and then proceeded to increase the cost of its product. 

My mum could buy a single on 7 inch vinyl for £1 using her weekly pocket money. 

Meanwhile, cd singles cost me £5. Despite CDs being cheaper and more efficient to mass produce and being decades old technology.

And in this time, the music industry continued to pay multimillion dollar paychecks to artists, label staff and shareholders. 

The reasons things continue to get more expensive isn't because of cost increases, its because shareholders demand increasing returns. The focus isn't on value, or quality. The focus is on printing money.

[Bronco 14,094]

18 minutes ago, Ivy said:

I realized I don't understand how it works with inflated prices. I thought most of the extra money went to the seller 

Depends on how the higher prices are charged. 

With resale, any additional income to be gained purely goes to ticketmaster and the reseller. 

With dynamic pricing/platinum tickets etc that goes to the artist.

[StrawberryBlond 15,030]

I'm glad something's being done about it but it needs to be carried out across the board and not just for Olivia. I also don't immediately blame every other artist for not saying a thing as most of them probably don't realise you can do that, that ticket selling sites aren't their jurisdiction and that they may get it in the neck from their label for being too outspoken. But now the floodgates have opened, this will hopefully change. I'd like to see a time when it's affordable to see most artists though it will be weird to see a timeframe where tours were making megabucks and then it all goes backwards again and they'll be forever cited as "yes, it made a billion dollars but that tour happened back in the dynamic pricing era, so it's not as impressive really." But you have to remember that some tickets will always be more expensive, it should reflect the production value and overall quality of the show. Naturally, if you have no costume changes, no dancers and don't do vocal gymnastics, your tour shouldn't be priced outrageously. The price should reflect what you get.

10 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

DON'T BUY FROM RESELLERS GUYS UNLESS YOU'RE FULLY SURE IT'S FROM A VALIDATED PLATFORM. A friend of mine just got his little sister giving him Mayhem ball ticket as a present. He waited a long time and was told the ticket weren't valid at the gates with the dude explaining to them how small details should have warned them on these tickets. Apparently many others were refused for the same reason.

She had paid 2X400 € to make her big bro happy and they both went home with teary eyes. 

A cautionary tale indeed. I was terrified when I got 2 tickets for Lana Del Rey through viagogo because it was only after purchasing them that I found out on the official ticketmaster page that you weren't allowed to buy tickets through third party platforms, explicitly mentioning viagogo. Was fearing it was going to be £360 down the drain and there was nothing I could do about it. But turned out that they worked fine, so that was it. And we even got upgraded to be directly opposite the stage, for better audience distribution, so would have paid near enough double if we'd bought tickets in that location originally. Couldn't have worked out better but I still don't think I'll bother trying again. Truthfully, I naively thought viagogo was a first party seller and when my friend suggested I used that, I just did, not realising. I was very naive and it's not like me to not read into that first. To be fair to viagogo, they mention that in a disclaimer on the page where you buy tickets, basically saying that you're doing this at your own risk. But it does say that less than 1% are unable to get in with their tickets and you can apply for a refund if you don't get in. Though I've heard actually getting the money can be hit or miss. 

I think it's sad that people have no option but to buy from third party sellers because all the ticketmaster tickets are sold out and they know that scalpers took so many, so there was no other option. It's the actual scalping in the first place that needs to be dealt with before we even consider resale prices.

6 hours ago, Elizabeth said:

I think this is a USA problem, I know at least in the UK tickets cannot be resold on Ticketmaster for more than cost price. 

More artists should be talking about this and I think Olivia speaking out is great, but I think it's far more normalised in the US and accepted since people are seemingly willing to pay these extreme prices. 

That's very interesting, you'd think this would be something done across all locations. I don't think it was always like that as I had to resell an AP ticket on there back in the day and offered it for the sale price but there were others charging higher. The company having different rules for different countries is a pretty poor show.

3 hours ago, whoresup said:

But surely it is not the artist who profits more from this but the scalpers themselves? 

Like I understand that artists should do stuff like this to make it affordable for true fans but by not doing it doesn’t mean they’re going to profit more.

Or am I being dumb? 

I think it's more a case of they might not get as many ticket sales because more and more fans will realise they don't stand a chance of getting a ticket, so they just stop trying to get any in the first place. When you know scalpers will take the lion's share of them immediately and you'll be priced out, you just feel jaded and not even bother. It loses the goodwill of fans, basically. I think that's about it. 

1 minute ago, Ivy said:

I realized I don't understand how it works with inflated prices. I thought most of the extra money went to the seller 

Does ticketmaster earn a cut? I'm not sure but if that's true, they're just as bad as the scalpers. 

[dit 46,559]

It’s true and they should say it. Our favs are greedy AF

[elijahfan 26,654]

1 hour ago, Bronco said:

People didn't choose streaming over physical. 

The industry deliberately introduced streaming to fight back against pirate sites like limewire which gained such prominence because the industry decided to make its primary market an audience with limited access to funds and then proceeded to increase the cost of its product. 

My mum could buy a single on 7 inch vinyl for £1 using her weekly pocket money. 

Meanwhile, cd singles cost me £5. Despite CDs being cheaper and more efficient to mass produce and being decades old technology.

And in this time, the music industry continued to pay multimillion dollar paychecks to artists, label staff and shareholders. 

The reasons things continue to get more expensive isn't because of cost increases, its because shareholders demand increasing returns. The focus isn't on value, or quality. The focus is on printing money.

Right, I’m not denying that the run for more and more profit has been the root of the problem all along. It’s definitely a vicious circle though, and in the current business model, money has to come from somewhere…

[River 119,755]

I like the enthusiasm in this thread but when the post "Mayhem ball grossed $XXXXX MILLIONS" most of you will celebrate it and forget about the whole tickets shitty situation 

I'm not sure it's even gonna make happy for Gaga.. I paid way too much for the seats I had.