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Teletubby
24 minutes ago, OMonster said:

I don't think that's an edited photo. It looks like Nicole and that model were just at the same location. 

This model has the same nails, hairstyle, earrings, and even mole on her neck (that real Nicole doesn't have)
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OMonster
17 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

This model has the same nails, hairstyle, earrings, and even mole on her neck (that real Nicole doesn't have)
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Oh right, that's a different image to the one you originally shared. I'm still not convinced it's an edit though. It would be a really strange thing to do. It's not as though Nicole and the model are posed in the same way either; it would be a big and quite sophisticated photoshop job to take that model's hand for example and have it hold Nicole's coat, like in the picture. 

Anyway, all of this feels as though I'm defending Nicole Scherzinger, lol, which I don't really want to do, given I don't know enough about her. I'm just genuinely unsure about the claim that photo is fake.

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Horny Chicken
7 hours ago, OMonster said:

I don't deny any of that at all. I am not a Christian and don't align myself to any religion. However, Christianity is not the only religion that has harmed gay people. Islam is traditionally (and perhaps more) critical of homosexuality, for example. I asked GPT to compare the religions and it concluded with this summary:

In summary

Institutionally: Christianity overall tends to have more established and visible LGBTQ+-affirming branches and churches.

Culturally: Acceptance among Muslims is fast growing but remains more limited and often more controversial within Islamic contexts.

So I think my point stands. If there were equivalent comments towards Islam on here, I feel it would be viewed as unacceptable (rightly). So I don't understand why it is acceptable for one religion but not another. 

Very few people here are going to speak up on Islam’s persecution of gays because it’s not politically correct (yet) as it’s a right-wing talking point. The right hates Islam so we have to be pro-Islam. That kind of thing. It doesn’t make any sense but that’s how our culture wars work. :laughga: 

Christianity, Islam and Judaism. They are same problematic religion just with different names. All of them deserve to be criticized. 

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Bronco
2 hours ago, OMonster said:

I'm not a Christian but I'm kind of shocked by the flagrant criticism and mocking of it in this thread. I don't think any of you would so openly belittle any other religion on here - so why is it acceptable, and not ban-worthy, to talk about Christianity in this way? One for the mods, I guess?

No religion should be free of criticism and derision. 

So long as it is not used as a tool of persecution, criticism and derision of ideas is part of a free society. 

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apollorowling
1 hour ago, OMonster said:

I don't deny any of that at all. I am not a Christian and don't align myself to any religion. However, Christianity is not the only religion that has harmed gay people. Islam is traditionally (and perhaps more) critical of homosexuality, for example. I asked GPT to compare the religions and it concluded with this summary:

In summary

Institutionally: Christianity overall tends to have more established and visible LGBTQ+-affirming branches and churches.

Culturally: Acceptance among Muslims is fast growing but remains more limited and often more controversial within Islamic contexts.

So I think my point stands. If there were equivalent comments towards Islam on here, I feel it would be viewed as unacceptable (rightly). So I don't understand why it is acceptable for one religion but not another. 

Hmm, I think we criticize everything here. I'm online every day and I've read all sorts of things 😂

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Fed up with religion, with people who believe in God and in rules laid down by that God. They are absolutely entitled to believe in that stuff, but ..... they're wrong, and I'm fed up with it, and I'll go to my grave being fed up with it because it will definitely outlast me.

The current absurdity in the US wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for religion. Trump isn't religious at all, he's just nuts, a megalomaniac, but some of the other key players, e.g. Johnson, Vought, do what they do, and get the strength to do what they do, because of and from their religious faith. I think that they really, truly believe that what they are doing is right .... I'm fed up with it. 

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River
6 hours ago, OMonster said:

I'm not a Christian but I'm kind of shocked by the flagrant criticism and mocking of it in this thread. I don't think any of you would so openly belittle any other religion on here - so why is it acceptable, and not ban-worthy, to talk about Christianity in this way? One for the mods, I guess?

I'm fine with criticism about any religion from LGBTQ+ about LGBTQ+ issues, we're the victim of these institutions, to expect us to be nice to them is delusional.

Also, Islam is the second biggest religion in the world, it might be a minority in the US, but in the rest of the world it's either the majority (Muslim countries) or the 2nd biggest after Christianity (European countries), I find it idiotic to even have the idea that it's not politically correct to criticize it and it should be "protected" from criticism.

Islamophobia exists, just like Chrstianphobia exists from Muslims and Jews and Antisemitism from Christians and Mulims.. so let them hoes fight for all I care.

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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OMonster
59 minutes ago, River said:

I'm fine with criticism about any religion from LGBTQ+ about LGBTQ+ issues, we're the victim of these institutions, to expect us to be nice to them is delusional.

Also, Islam is the second biggest religion in the world, it might be a minority in the US, but in the rest of the world it's either the majority (Muslim countries) or the 2nd biggest after Christianity (European countries), I find it idiotic to even have the idea that it's not politically correct to criticize it and it should be "protected" from criticism.

Islamophobia exists, just like Chrstianphobia exists from Muslims and Jews and Antisemitism from Christians and Mulims.. so let them hoes fight for all I care.

That's a refreshing take and one I am glad to read :) 

Personally, I would not use the mocking language about any religion expressed earlier on in this thread. But I'm glad that such language could be expressed against any religion and it not face consequence. 

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