Halsey, Tyla, Ava Max to perform in Saudi Arabia

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2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

All the more reason to boycott tbh 

I understand if its a private event for the government or royals, or an event that promotes the government like the National day. But this is an event for the public, even if its funded by the government. 

I would love it if my favorite artists can perform in my country, instead of me traveling and losing money to see them, or not even going and missing out.

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3 hours ago, princedeeblebleble said:

Halsey is kinda shocking on this list, the others not so much 

Those comments about a certain basement collapsing make a whole lot more sense now 

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12 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

I understand if its a private event for the government or royals, or an event that promotes the government like the National day. But this is an event for the public, even if its funded by the government. 

I would love it if my favorite artists can perform in my country, instead of me traveling and losing money to see them, or not even going and missing out.

Eh, but even if it’s for the public, the fact that it’s funded by the government means it’s subject to the government’s discretion in terms of what is and what is not appropriate. I personally think, in that context, the specter of censorship is enough reason to decline. I don’t mean this maliciously, but I’m saying as an artist, I probably wouldn’t feel comfortable accepting a gig on those terms. 

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15 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

False equivalence. This would be like if either foreign artists were performing at an event sponsored by the Trump admin or the US government effectively censored speech and art by only allowing artists to perform in the US who are pre-approved by the government. Also if foreign artists boycotted the US based on actions taken by its government, they would be fully within their rights to do so, so not really the gotcha you think it is lol. 

It's not, the organizer in this case is more of an aggravate. If you deny the fact that some people will try to cancel the artist just for the fact of performing in that country, you are lying. 

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Just now, NemoMyName said:

It's not, the organizer in this case is more of an aggravate. If you deny the fact that some people will try to cancel the artist just for the fact of performing in that country, you are lying. 

It absolutely is a false equivalence. And where did I say people wouldn’t try to cancel the artist for performing at a (likely censored) Saudi government sponsored/funded event (in the same way that people would try to cancel an artist for performing at an event sponsored/funded/likely censored by the Trump admin or US govt)?

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3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Eh, but even if it’s for the public, the fact that it’s funded by the government means it’s subject to the government’s discretion in terms of what is and what is not appropriate. I personally think, in that context, the specter of censorship is enough reason to decline. I don’t mean this maliciously, but I’m saying as an artist, I probably wouldn’t feel comfortable accepting a gig on those terms. 

In todays Saudi, artists are given full freedom to do and dress whowever they want. Alot of artists try to respect the culture, but the government are encouraging artists to be more open because thats their goal for the country. If Shakira or Madonna do a show in Saudi, it wont be censored.

But I do understand where your coming from, its still an issue..

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ava max i can understand, she needs every paycheck possible

halsey is surprising though 

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9 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

In todays Saudi, artists are given full freedom to do and dress whowever they want. Alot of artists try to respect the culture, but the government are encouraging artists to be more open because thats their goal for the country. If Shakira or Madonna do a show in Saudi, it wont be censored.

But I do understand where your coming from, its still an issue..

I saw Tim Dillon (American comedian who was invited to Rihayd) was disinvited to the festival after criticizing the government and that the comedians who performed were essentially given a list of topics they were and were not allowed to discuss. That being said, I hope you’re right that the social/cultural climate moves to a more open place, but I do fundamentally still think it’s problematic that the government holds the purse strings when it comes to art coming in and out of the country. 

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Disgusting. 

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54 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Folks, is it bigoted to boycott an oppressive government’s state sponsored propaganda event?

Of course not, it's actually what we should all do.

I just wanted to give them an example that they are wrong to use islamphobia to justify these artists and the SA government just like when Israelis using antisemitism to justify the actions of the government.

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10 minutes ago, River said:

Of course not, it's actually what we should all do.

I just wanted to give them an example that they are wrong to use islamphobia to justify these artists and the SA government just like when Israelis using antisemitism to justify the actions of the government.

No, I know, I was being sarcastic. I completely agree with you 

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17 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I saw Tim Dillon (American comedian who was invited to Rihayd) was disinvited to the festival after criticizing the government and that the comedians who performed were essentially given a list of topics they were and were not allowed to discuss. That being said, I hope you’re right that the social/cultural climate moves to a more open place, but I do fundamentally still think it’s problematic that the government holds the purse strings when it comes to art coming in and out of the country. 

Yeah I think comedy is different because alot of comedy is meant to be controversial, shocking, offensive, and bring up taboo subjects. So that kind of stuff doesnt make sense in a country like Saudi. But they did tell Jessica Kirson that its okay to talk about being Gay, and one of the comedians mocked a royal family member for being Gay.

Im not trying to defend my country, I just want artists to come to me haha

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4 hours ago, princedeeblebleble said:

Halsey is kinda shocking on this list, the others not so much 

Very upset about Halsey 

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So disappointed with halsey ngl 

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I'm more surprised by the presence of Kaytranada in this list, literaly a gay man