Taylor Swift on the public's reaction to The Life Of A Showgirl

[faysalaaa 4,899]

1 hour ago, Cavadour said:

Cashgrab.

Is she able to do anything else ? Has she reached her limit under the Peter Principle ?

I think the Eras tour made her too confident and delusional that people will love anything she does. If she continues being like this, she can turn into a legacy artist by the next album.

[Oriane 21,196]

I know she's fuming internally

[monstertoronto 10,420]

I’m sure she loves the album herself, she made it, so it’s no surprise that she’s publicly letting the criticism roll off. I’m not sure what other response people would expect her to give. She stands by her album and at least is acknowledging there have been varying responses to it.  Some of the posts seems to fault her for not actually agreeing with all the criticism from a vocal population but why should she if she herself likes the album? I’m glad Gaga stood by ARTPOP when she was getting so much negative response, especially for fans like me that loved that album. I’m not comparing these two albums obviously ARTPOP is way better but just saying I don’t think Taylor deserves to be criticized for standing by her album. And not everyone hates it. 

Edited Tuesday at 10:40 PM by monstertoronto

[27monster27 13,775]

The only tweet shame made that is a little messy is the second one. I'm not sure why people are saying that she's being narcissistic over one tweet lol. She made it clear that she doesn't have an issue with people having different opinions.

[eddyjeddy 1,748]

 

“I have a lot of respect for people’s subjective opinions on art. I’m not the art police"

also her:

 

[GreenEyes 1,091]

This happens every Taylor album. Everyone hates it, says they miss a certain era of hers. Country, pop, I miss her rep era folklore etc. then by the next album everyone is confused why she isn’t doing the same thing as her previous era or why her writing isn’t what they want. She is very capable of writing very well written story telling songs, but she also likes to make fun light hearted stuff. She isn’t regressing, she just does what she wants in the moment. 
 

but everyone falls into this trap every single era of hers and she knows it. Next album or two there will be people who will say they miss showgirl era/aesthetic. People will say how underrated it is, that the new album isn’t as successful as showgirl. She is so polarizing when her albums get released that everyone either loves it or hates it, and it grows on fans and all of a sudden they love it and never hated it. This happens with most pop stars, even Gaga. I miss tfm, ARTPOP, btw why can’t she make dark pop songs like she used to. Oh but now everyone is obsessed with mayhem and it’s her best ever and it’s album of the year. Everyone wants their opinion to be heard loud and clear first before letting things soak. 

[TheARTPOPball 760]

26 minutes ago, eddyjeddy said:

 

“I have a lot of respect for people’s subjective opinions on art. I’m not the art police"

also her:

 

I was thinking about this. She definitely cares, which is understandable. 

[Louvre 3,966]

a lot of ppl outing themselves as sw*fties on this forum lately

[LadyxGaGa 2,444]

ngl i don’t get what’s the issue with the reputation snub and her wanting to make a better album despite being knocked down she made lover and that ended up being a sleeper hit 

[Taylucifer 5,174]

well exactly, she's a mirror which everyone projects frustrations and success onto

[LukiiGleek 209]

She's allowed to like her album and everybody else is allowed to dislike it. She doesn't have to reflect if others don't like it. She can reflect upon it if she wants to and not because there is the pressure to do so.  

[thisboyisamonster 979]

Yeah I agree with a lot of posts here that day she's allowed to like her own album, and TBF, from interviews it does sound like it a true and honest reflection of show she feels inside. And you know what, slay. Who are we to judge. You don't always have to feel folklore whimsical or tortured poets angry. With this album, I'm getting fun, flirty, excited, a bit superficial, maybe a bit petty... But that's just where she is in life and is confident enough to sing/release music about it.  If I was number one in the world, a billionaire, just got back my masters and was getting married, I would probably also release super chill / hollow music. Like just take it easy... Because I know I'll be fine haha

I also get this mood isn't for everyone, but know that a lot of people like and resonate with this. But I think it's also valid if people are commenting and reacting on her music given the significance and chatter behind this album. And to be fair, it's Taylor that's cultivated this hype and is still making it happen. I guess what's happened is that the album has subverted the default expectation from the showgirl visuals and the way she hyped up the production and lyrics. Plus the Charlie stuff and the lyrics from Wood etc. Like no one can stop talking about it. Plus the Ophelia video is also creating buzz and positive reactions. 

What happens next we will have to see but for now she's gonna be more than fine with all the records she breaks this release week....

 

[elsamars 3,178]

2 hours ago, GreenEyes said:

 

Next album or two there will be people who will say they miss showgirl era/aesthetic. 

I doubt anyone will miss it tbh 

 

[JustJustan 985]

As someone who took a lot of heat on this forum for defending Taylor during TTPD's rollout, I cannot defend this album. I'm a Monster first, Swiftie second, and I love Taylor's past work. But this album is objectively bad. The production is thin and weak. The lyrics are mediocre and juvenile. The first five songs are decent and should have been either an EP or put on the backburner until a full album was fleshed out. Because the majority of it is trash, and as a fan, I can't defend it. She has let being a billionaire and fiancee to a sports guy go to her head. She is clearly feeling untouchable because she's ammassed enough wealth and fame that she will always have a successful rollout. But aside from the album just not being good at all, she's abusing fans' good will even moreso than TTPD with her variants and merch rollout. It's disgusting behavior, and I'm sitting this era out. 

[MonsterPaws 2,740]

9 hours ago, Dojo said:

Let's be honest, other fanbases are jealous of her. If she weren't as successful, no one would care this much about how genuine or artistic she is.

Other artists don't even write her songs or direct her own videos, she does, she's very involved in every single step of her creative process, more than any other popstar. 

Judging by how we love to brag about every achievement of our faves, we all wish they were on her level of success, wether we admit it or not.

There's a reason why the charts thread here is contantly buzzing, we all care about charts and stats, is part of being a fanbase. 

When Gaga was at her peak during the TFM era and the lead up to BTW, she faced very very similar criticisms.

People appreciate BTW now, but back then the "Madonna copycat" allegations were thrown around just as easily as "capitalist queen Taylor Swift" is today. And even on the commercial side of things, Gaga got flack when her team sold BTW for 99 cents on Amazon to boost numbers.

So it's no different today with Taylor. She's just that big that's easy to praise, criticize, or use her on social media for engagement bait.

TLOAS's music is really not that different than her previous albums quality-wise for better or for worse. Not lyrically or production wise. But because she's so successful people set insanely high bars for her that it's hard to top (folklore/evermore especially).

Again, we saw that with Gaga and ARTPOP where it felt impossible to not only follow up on Born This Way but also The Fame/Monster. Now, more than a decade later ARTPOP is "underrated" and considered one of her best albums. Funnily enough, Taylor is being criticized for clunky or cringey lyrics on Showgirl, but even Gaga had "clunky lyrics" that some people found off-putting in G.U.Y ("please retweet" and "guy I'm romancing loves to hold you well").

TLOAS has some of Taylor's best songs imo: Father Figure and Ophelia. She's able to evoke imagery really well with those two.

It's just a matter of time before people start actually enjoying/appreciating TLOAS and TTPD (already seeing much-deserved love for this one) instead of getting caught up in the discourse around them.

Edited yesterday at 04:35 AM by MonsterPaws