BTW mv in retrospect

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20 minutes ago, steven said:

I agree that she never really topped this one in terms of weirdness and storyline. BTW era truly felt like it was her most creative and less scripted era also

I agree with this! I really feel like her mind was the most 'open' back then to all her creative thoughts. She made the most unique connections and interesting ideas during that time. Love her stuff now! But it just hasn't itched that same satisfying part of the brain since BTW. That part that goes 'oh that's an interesting metaphor but I get it'. Like thinking of fully embracing your darkest parts and choosing to celebrate life anyway, and calling it 'marrying the night'. Or writing your own 'live life as if every day was your last' anthem and calling that totally free moment before death, and that feel of ultimate freedom 'the edge of glory'. She was really in genius mode back then! 

[ProdigyARTPOP 3,910]

The white gloves are a reference to MJ as is the dance 

[Blackout19 12,243]

still her best music video

[Gagaism 12,004]

4 hours ago, elsamars said:

The music video was released way before Madonna’s comments though 

Wrong, as soon as she teased it at the meat dress VMAs, there were already comments about it 

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8 hours ago, steven said:

Do you think it has aged well?

 

No, and i think this applies to the song as well. 

The intentions of it will never age poorly. She went in with the intention of making a song that celebrates all different identities and expressions, and that is very commendable. 

However, the song's lyrics make use of some words that over time have not aged particularly wonderfully, and outside of that I think she just has better empowerment anthems. Both on that same album and afterward. 

It's one of not the least interesting song on the album and the video itself does little to accentuate the song's purpose. There's some cool visuals within it, but that's kinda my point against it. It's a cool visual showcase but does not really support the song it's attached to. 

I don't think the video has aged poorly. The song has, but the video hasn't. But I also think the video has aged into being something a little less than it could've or should've been for what the song was intending to convey. 

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8 hours ago, elsamars said:

I will never understand why she has a tooth gap at the end and crying

 

7 hours ago, Rahrahbitchson said:

The tooth gap was a reference to Madonna sweetie, and with the crying she was representing her meltdown over BTW being a better song than Express Yourself!!!!! Hope that makes it clear to you honey xo

When I first saw the teeth gap at the end, I thought it was an homage to Madonna. Gaga recognizing and honoring her linneage 

A few weeks (days? hours? Or maybe she already had? idr) later Madonna herself picks up on the stan war and starts shitting on Gaga and I'm like what the hell? 

The Madonna hate for Gaga always blows my mind because Gaga is so explicit in her honoring of her inspirations and teachers.

Why wouldn't Madonna feel happy to influence another generation AND be honored for it?

Edited 16 hours ago by Skyana Rava

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BTW vs ET mv back in the day...

Katy had amazing makeup and hairstyle, but the MV itself looked like Animal Planet Documentary 

BTW MV far more superior as whole

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5 hours ago, Gagaism said:

Wrong, as soon as she teased it at the meat dress VMAs, there were already comments about it 

Born this way video release -Feb 2011

Madonna’s comments -Jan 2012

almost 1 year later 

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3 hours ago, Skyana Rava said:

 

A few weeks (days? hours? Or maybe she already had? idr) later Madonna herself picks up on the stan war and starts shitting on Gaga and I'm like what the hell? 

 

one year later not few weeks

Feb 11 2011 - born this way song released, twitter exploded with EY comparisons, major music publications released articles about comparisons

Feb 13 2011 - Gaga thanked Whitney Houston for the inspiration for Born this Way song 

Feb 15 2011 - Gaga said she emailed Madonna about the song got approval from her 

Feb 16 2011 - Madonna’s publicist said they did not receive or send any email to Gaga

Jan 2012 - Madonna’s reductive comment 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by elsamars

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But the birth was not finite… it was infinite 

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5 minutes ago, holy scheisse said:

But the birth was not finite… it was infinite 

In fai night 

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I think the intro is fantastic, but you do feel a palpable disconnect between it and the rest of it when the song starts. So for that, it's a little uneven, but the intro is so so gorgeous and bizarre. The very obvious ED she was going through around this time makes it hard to see the bikini shots tbh

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I have ptsd regarding that video release cause my internet service was messed up that day and I spent all afternoon watching 4 seconds worth of loaded material every 20 minutes. By the end of the day I was exhausted and mad at the video 

Edited 13 hours ago by Decodekid

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30 minutes ago, elsamars said:

one year later not few weeks

Feb 11 2011 - born this way song released, twitter exploded with EY comparisons, major music publications released articles about comparisons

Feb 13 2011 - Gaga thanked Whitney Houston for the inspiration for Born this Way song 

Feb 15 2011 - Gaga said she emailed Madonna about the song got approval from her 

Feb 16 2011 - Madonna’s publicist said they did not receive or send any email to Gaga

Jan 2012 - Madonna’s reductive comment 

 

on this since we're talking about it. i always believed gaga totally lied about the email thing to try to get the bad press to go away faster (I get it so ns to her), and rather than let it go Madonna decided to use it as a launchpad for her new album

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This music video dragged me out the closet tho dead ass