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What Happens To Mayhem Grammy Submission With Extended Version?


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So now 3 songs are added. The Grammy cut off was end of August but the Mayhem now has 3 more songs

 

Will the submission be of only the original 14 tracks or will all 17 get reviewed under consideration as part of the album?

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monstertoronto

This is a good question!  I assume the original album will be the one eligible for all awards, and the three added tracks might be eligible for next year?  Although maybe the first two new tracks weee technically already released as bonus tracks so I guess only TDD would qualify for 2026. 

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Well the album is still called Mayhem… so I’m thinking they’re trying to be sneaky and hope this will give it more chances at winning…

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They're gonna submit the 17 track version for the 2027 Grammys :cheeky:

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The original album is the one that will get the nominations/awards. But of course, most voters will just asume the new Mayhem is the regular one and that it has always included TDD, even more so because it wasn't branded as a Deluxe/Re-release (This actually might be why), so the hype for the new song just around this time, when the votes are cast will actually help a lot.

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Well, technically, the Grammy submission is simultaneously both the 14-track entity and not the 14-track entity, because once the cutoff crystallizes at August’s terminus, the Recording Academy receives the “object-as-submitted,” which is the canonical album, but only in the provisional state of its pre-extended incarnation.
 

However, when three additional songs enter the fold, the submission transmutes into what you might call an ontologically bifurcated artifact: the Academy is now considering the frozen original while also tacitly not considering the expanded version, except insofar as the expanded version retroactively redefines the listener’s perception of what the submission was supposed to be, even though the rules don’t actually change what was already locked.

So yes, all 17 tracks could be under consideration in theory, but only in the sense that the additional three exist in a quantum adjacency to the original 14, thereby making the album simultaneously reviewed as 14, 17, and possibly 0 tracks, depending on whether you ask from the perspective of the rules, the band, or the timeline in which the cutoff doesn’t actually exist.

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4 minutes ago, elsamars said:

Well, technically, the Grammy submission is simultaneously both the 14-track entity and not the 14-track entity, because once the cutoff crystallizes at August’s terminus, the Recording Academy receives the “object-as-submitted,” which is the canonical album, but only in the provisional state of its pre-extended incarnation.
 

However, when three additional songs enter the fold, the submission transmutes into what you might call an ontologically bifurcated artifact: the Academy is now considering the frozen original while also tacitly not considering the expanded version, except insofar as the expanded version retroactively redefines the listener’s perception of what the submission was supposed to be, even though the rules don’t actually change what was already locked.

So yes, all 17 tracks could be under consideration in theory, but only in the sense that the additional three exist in a quantum adjacency to the original 14, thereby making the album simultaneously reviewed as 14, 17, and possibly 0 tracks, depending on whether you ask from the perspective of the rules, the band, or the timeline in which the cutoff doesn’t actually exist.

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25 minutes ago, monstertoronto said:

This is a good question!  I assume the original album will be the one eligible for all awards, and the three added tracks might be eligible for next year?  Although maybe the first two new tracks weee technically already released as bonus tracks so I guess only TDD would qualify for 2026. 

The three extra tracks are not eligible because there needs to be at least 50% new material for a “deluxe” or extended version to be eligible. Only if either of the three is released as a single they count for the singular song categories (aka the case with The Dead Dance; eligible for best pop solo or pop dance, ROTY, SOTY and Best song for visual media). 

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Future Lovers

The Grammys consider whatever is submitted and aligns with their rules (not all deluxe versions count). That is not to say they won't hear the additional songs depending on the method they consume the record, but they are voting on the "canon" album, whatever that is. 

For example, when Justin Bieber submitted his album Justice, he didn't submit the standard version, he submitted a deluxe version, and that is what was nominated. Conversely, Taylor Swift submits the standard versions of all of her albums rather than deluxe version (so Midnights was submitted as the 13 track album, not the 3 AM version and TTPD was submitted as a single album, not The Anthology version). 

Gaga's team likely submitted just the standard album with no bonus tracks, and that is what will be considered for the ceremony. 

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gerrygaga

The Dead Dance will be eligible for 2027 Grammys and will not compete against Abracadabra. We love to see it, maximizing all the chances.

I am guessing the standard album for MAYHEM with 14 tracks will be submitted for 2026.

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Lady Polonia

No need to worries. It is only an digital reissue with 3 bonus tracks. 13 original tracks (without DWAS) and MAYHEM itself will be eligible for 2026 Grammys.

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princedeeblebleble

Technically two of the three new songs already existed so I'd say only TDD didn't really add much to the consideration for this year :oops: but we'll seeeeee

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So let's say in a month or two she will release VIY as a single, will it be eligible for 2026 grammy's?

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