Did Tim Burton fail to deliver?

[Defmix100 6,409]

I don't feel like he's kept much of his style probably after Sweeney Todd, as in where you can look at a shot and it feels like it could only be from a Tim Burton project. The music video felt like it could have been by anyone and was more something I'd imagine seeing more from early Melanie Martinez or if Halsey had a creepy doll music video

[Ashley 9,555]

5 minutes ago, Luv u Sum said:

the video was kinda what i expected (mainly cuz the leak) but it was kinda boring to me outside of gaga's performance. and apparently they used AI to animate the dolls which pisses me off so bad 

It’s been confirmed by one of the producers of the video that AI was not used, also Tim Burton is vehemently against AI.

[InTheCloset 20,224]

Yes. 

But the song is ok. Like you can dance to it so......

[GoldenNovember 548]

The answer to your question depends on the expectations each one of us had before the MVs release. Those expecting a spooky shortfilm extravaganza are disappointed. As for my own expectations: Looking at Burtons previous work and Gagas MVs so far, I came to the conclusion: From a short, classic music video to an extravagant production, everything is possible. Though I did not expect the latter all that much, as The Dead Dance is associated with a Netflix Series, and as such, did not strike me as a project fit for a G.U.Y. or Marry The Night kind of production, as the intended audience for this project is a spicific one.

So when the video dropped, I instantly liked it, as I did not set unreasonable expectations for myself. I love the MV! Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I do understand that people expected more from this, we tend to expect a lot from Gaga. But isn't that a trap we set for ourselves at times? Discussing opinions is kind of a mindf*ck, so lets leave it at that 

Edited Thursday at 04:40 PM by GoldenNovember

[Chromanne 1,530]

This is neither the fault of Tim Burton nor Gaga. They never promised us a huge budget short film length music video with aggressive choreography. The video is what they intended to make. Rather it's the little monsters that had very high expectations based on some random insiders.

I like the fact that Gaga doesn't give a shït about the opinions of little monsters. If she wanted to create a simple mv for DWAS with just her and Bruno singing and then add the song to her album, she would do it. If she wanted the Disease mv to have minimal choreography and more on the creepiness, she would do. If she wanted to have an aggressive choreography in Abracadabra mv, she would do. She doesn't bend down to the pressure and expectations of her fanbase and I respect that.

To me, the mv was as good as TEOG mv.  They aren't groundbreaking but they are still cute visuals though.

Edited Thursday at 04:40 PM by Chromanne

[darkgaga 5,453]

Yes he failed. Watching his films and series he is able to deliver awesome cinematography, and this video is so stiff. The endless shot during the first verse, gaga dissappearing in the smoke. The obvious cut from the opening shot of Gaga and the next one where she “drops” of the wall, but it is a completely different wall. The static camera during the dancing part (which works however with the cuts between Gaga and with and without dancers). The cheap colored lights. The obvious fake moon. Just no…

[River 117,597]

hmm If this post was yesterday, I would have say yes but..

So I turned off the lights and the room was dark, I played it on tv and.. DAMN 

The video is perfection lol

Like totally caught me off guard

And so many little Tim Burton details that I missed.

The whole atmosphere, the Tim horror humor and cheeky moments.

Also the bridge is very Tim-coded.

Give it a chance if you're really Tim fan 

 

I was so wrong yesterday omg 

[lilboyblue 5,421]

Yeah, I mean I'm actually fine if the idea was for Gaga to just be dancing through the island with the dolls coming alive. That's not a bad concept.

Execution though was poor. He had access to such an iconic landscape and not a single wide shot.

Also, framing of the choreo sequence was horrible. Why was he intercutting it with the same exact shot size but just with Gaga dancing solo?? And the random switch to color? Makes no sense. 

Lots of interesting things he could have done.

[darkgaga 5,453]

3 minutes ago, Chromanne said:

This is neither the fault of Tim Burton nor Gaga. They never promised us a huge budget short film length music video with aggressive choreography. The video is what they intended to make. Rather it's the little monsters that had very high expectations based on some random insiders.

I like the fact that Gaga doesn't give a shït about the opinions of little monsters. If she wanted to create a simple mv for DWAS with just her and Bruno singing and then add the song to her album, she would do it. If she wanted the Disease mv to have minimal choreography and more on the creepiness, she would do. If she wanted to have an aggressive choreography in Abracadabra mv, she would do. She doesn't bend down to the pressure and expectations of her fanbase and I respect that.

To me, the mv was as good as TEOG mv.  They aren't groundbreaking but they are still cute visuals though.

However DWAS, even though simple, is shot beautifully. Disease doesnt have choreo, but it works to show the struggle with your inner demons. Abra is a masterpiece and works as being mainly a dancevideo, with dynamic shots and good cuts, and still telling a story. 
 

TDD does nothing of that

[Controversiaga 11,498]

I think we can all agree both the song and the video were unimpressive.

But I don’t expect much from Tim Burton. I can’t remember the last impressive thing he did… he peaked in the 90s.

i did expect more from Gaga, however. Like I said, both the song itself, and the video are not on par with what we know she’s capable of.

[RenegAde 19,445]

A lot a you sound like professional videographers but also sound like you dont know what the hell you're actually trying to say.

[Hadrian 659]

I thought it was okay, but it feels like one of those music videos made during the COVID lockdowns.

[REALITY 77,150]

I’m gonna be honest…I f*cking love Tim Burton and his work, but I think he’s a much better ideator than he is a director. Arguably his most famous work, The Nightmare Before Christmas, wasn’t even directed by him. His style and aesthetic is great, but he’s actually not that good of a director—at least, when it comes to his recent work. The direction on Wednesday isn’t great (it’s fine), but I enjoy the show because I love Jenna in the role and I like being in a “Tim Burton” world.

The music video’s cute. I like it the more I watch it, but it is missing a “WOW” factor for me. I think it has to do a lot with the camera work. A lot of the shots were very static and just placed right in front of her. For me, it didn’t do Gaga or the Island of the Dolls location justice. 

[Borisapillar 9,346]

He gave us nothing, they didn't even need to shoot on location. Could easily have been a set or a green screen from what they showed us.

[RAMROD 109,789]

It is an amazing MV, and brings out the goth aspect that is known from his works. Not sure what else y'all are expecting??