Should Gaga be a billionaire?

[elegidadedios 2,229]

28 minutes ago, The Fame Monster said:

I get what you’re saying, but my view is simple: if you put in the work, you deserve the reward. At the same time, I believe wealthy people have a responsibility to give back to society, and those living in poverty should be supported until they’re able to stand on their own. In the end, we all have to contribute — both for ourselves and for the good of the community.

I fully know you're saying this from a genuine and kind point of view but let me tell you that that's not how economy (specially under the current capitalist system) works. Billionaires exists and increase their wealth year by year because of the so called poor people. Money circulates over the same resources (doesn't grow out of nowhere in an exponential and simplistic way), a few selected ppl around the globe get richer and that happens because the vast majority of us get to have less and less economic resources as time goes by (and it gets even harder for those in underdeveloped countries). So for them "to give back" to us makes no sense, it shouldn't happen in the first place. It's just a marketed illusion from capitalism to implant the following narrative: 1. rich people can be kind while being rich 2. if you work hard enough you can potentially become one of them (plot twist: that's unlikely)

An example for this: I paid 330€ for a single ticket to see her (glad I did, don't get me wrong). 330 euros I could've spent in being less worried about taxes and rent during the week I spent that amount of. Shall I go on?

Edited Tuesday at 01:15 PM by elegidadedios

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Nobody should. It’s wealth hoarding 

[Bronco 11,888]

23 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

That's not realistic though, unless you want a word war 3 and billions dead, 'cause that's literally the only way that happens, the current world order is etched in blood and billionares are a part of it, just like millionares and you and me, be careful by what you wish for.

Such a narrow minded view. 

Plenty of nations have taken steps towards systems that are significantly better than the American model without bloodshed or world war. 

Honestly, this just sounds like some 4chan incel masturbation fantasy.

[elegidadedios 2,229]

24 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

That's not realistic though, unless you want a word war 3 and billions dead, 'cause that's literally the only way that happens, the current world order is etched in blood and billionares are a part of it, just like millionares and you and me, be careful by what you wish for.

Don't we already have wars all around the globe and people dead because of capitalism, though?

[elegidadedios 2,229]

5 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Such a narrow minded view. 

Plenty of nations have taken steps towards systems that are significantly better than the American model without bloodshed or world war. 

Honestly, this just sounds like some 4chan incel masturbation fantasy.

King we think alike can you insert your appendage inside of me pls

Edited Tuesday at 01:18 PM by elegidadedios

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1 minute ago, Bronco said:

Such a narrow minded view. 

Plenty of nations have taken steps towards systems that are significantly better than the American model without bloodshed or world war. 

Honestly, this just sounds like some 4chan incel masturbation fantasy.

Lmao, i'm not the one with the fantasy it seems, if you actually think the world can get rid of capitalism without bloodshed you are very naive, the american model rules the world and they won't ever give it up willingly, do I really need to explain why?

[elegidadedios 2,229]

1 minute ago, lastpopicon said:

Lmao, i'm not the one with the fantasy it seems, if you actually think the world can get rid of capitalism without bloodshed you are very naive, the american model rules the world and they won't ever give it up willingly, do I really need to explain why?

Well you are right there but good changes come with sacrifices

[lastpopicon 32,411]

Just now, elegidadedios said:

Well you are right there but good changes come with sacrifices

Well sure, but nobody can guarantee you things will get actually better afterwards.

And history actually tells us the alternatives are usually much worse, but hey, we can always fantasize it can be better. 

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7 hours ago, Bronco said:

No one should be a billionaire in the same country that allows children to starve and live on the streets. 

There's no ethical way to be a billionaire. 

This is so exaggerated.  Children aren't "starving" in developed countries like the U.S.

Edited Tuesday at 01:25 PM by Jakesnyders673

[elegidadedios 2,229]

Just now, lastpopicon said:

Well sure, but nobody can guarantee you things will get actually better afterwards.

And history actually tells us the alternatives are usually much worse, but hey, we can always fantasize it can be better. 

"Alternatives ain't better so let's stay in this one where children in India get exploited manufacturing clothes"

Idk that just seems bad to me. Sorry

[elegidadedios 2,229]

7 minutes ago, Jakesnyders673 said:

Children aren't "starving" in developed countries like the U.S.

1. I'm sure a remarkable amount of children can't have 3 daily meals as recommended

2. Yeah, in underdeveloped countries children are starving and in the US they suffer from overweight / obesity bc they don't have access to healthier good which costs way more... Lol I guess...

Two sides same coin

Oh and let me you that the whole Earth lives under capitalism, no matter how specific countries follow different politics

Edited Tuesday at 01:30 PM by elegidadedios

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Just now, elegidadedios said:

"Alternatives ain't better so let's stay in this one where children in India get exploited manufacturing clothes"

Idk that just seems bad to me. Sorry

And it is bad, you never saw me argue wealth disparity is good.

[elegidadedios 2,229]

1 minute ago, lastpopicon said:

And it is bad, you never saw me argue wealth disparity is good.

I know I'm just saying we shouldn't say that by comparison capitalism isn't that bad, because it is by fact

[Bronco 11,888]

11 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Lmao, i'm not the one with the fantasy it seems, if you actually think the world can get rid of capitalism without bloodshed you are very naive, the american model rules the world and they won't ever give it up willingly, do I really need to explain why?

The american model doesn't rule the world.

In the last 6 months alone multiple nations have been moved away from it and sought out greater allegiances with American opposition as a result of Trump's tarrifs (which are in itself a major attack on the american model of capitalism).

Major global economies have started reorientating themselves away from Amercia - without a single drop of blood.

Its even led countries who were effectively engaging in cold war practicies to seek greater peaceful collaboration. 

America is actively giving up its power in the world because the billionaires ****ed up and installed an uncontrollable puppet who actively threatens their existence 😂

[elegidadedios 2,229]

1 minute ago, Bronco said:

The american model doesn't rule the world.

In the last 6 months alone multiple nations have been moved away from it and sought out greater allegiances with American opposition as a result of Trump's tarrifs (which are in itself a major attack on the american model of capitalism).

Major global economies have started reorientating themselves away from Amercia - without a single drop of blood.

Its even led countries who were effectively engaging in cold war practicies to seek greater peaceful collaboration. 

America is actively giving up its power in the world because the billionaires ****ed up and installed an uncontrollable puppet who actively threatens their existence 😂

That's what I like to call: the start of a collapsing end to an economic cycle (finally)