Abracadabra has Left the Hot 100 and Gone Recurrent

[RAMROD 109,027]

LBR the alboom due for a new single since 6 weeks ago

ABRACADBRA was a momentum starter, but it seems to fizzles out now

[JustJames 950]

53 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

Honestly this, 

I get why recurrency rules exist, but they are quite literally removing songs for the sake of appearing fresh and new, which to me makes no sense. Its like hiding rows in an excel file. The true data is being manipulated, and it makes even less sense if the purpose of billboard is to reflect which songs are the most popular... if a song has enough power to stay 1, 2 or 3 years on the chart that's only because the sales, streams and radio are still there. Billboard shouldn't interfere with that. 

Its even worse because the whole hot 100 narrative that has been cultivated on stan twitter has absolutely affected negatively the way people perceive and consume music, and it turns out that narrative is sitting on a faulty chart that deliberately removes songs if they don't beat an arbitrary rule.

Abra is probably outperforming all songs from 51-100, and she just doesn't appear on the chart for no reason other than letting other songs have a spot. 

And its even more ridiculous cause there ARE recurrent charts available, where all these songs continue to chart. So like, you can clearly tell the Hot100 is not accurate. 

What ever happened to the Rolling Stone's charts and why are we not collectively choosing them as the next actually legit charts? 

 

No, it’s not “faulty.” It’s a private publication’s list based on their own formula and methodology, which has succeeded enough over decades to be widely accepted by the US industry / considered its official chart. Nearly every market has their own official list with different formulas.

There’s no 100% objective way of measuring songs’ popularity, when streaming is influenced by playlisting and infested with bots, airplay is dependent on DJ support, sales are dead, yet were still subject to marketing tactics, etc.

The recurrent rules are sensible and aim to at least address older songs’ unfair long term advantage on Radio. If anything, they should be updated since prior to streaming, songs like DWAS, Espresso, BOAF would’ve rarely seen such “longevity” because only your first play counted. No chart measured the # of times people played their CD or song on their iPod after initial purchase. How is it any less “faulty” to count streams forever when users don’t need to pay for each specific stream if they even pay at all?

Anyway, it’s clearly more important for Billboard and industry stakeholders to allow room for new music to be spotlighted than mimic Spotify Charts.

Edited July 2 by JustJames

[Starmie25 18,114]

[andy232000 11,309]

2 minutes ago, JustJames said:

It’s absurd how fans think there is a 100% objective way of measuring songs’ popularity, when streaming is influenced by playlisting and infested with bots, airplay is dependent on DJ support, and sales are dead, yet were still subject to marketing tactics, etc.

I never said there was a 100% objective way of measuring. And I agree there isn’t, but most of these marketing tactics just affect first week numbers. After that it’s up to the song to fend on its own unless the record label decides to really amp up the payola, which is why airplay is such a screed metric, cause it’s the most easy to manipulate quietly and harder to filter out. 

[Ultimecia 6,050]

21 hours ago, Emvee said:

Damn. Giving the little revisionists ammo to shade Abra in the future 

I'm glad I logged onto GGD today

[southpaw773 3,196]

Vanish into billboard 

[gagzus 15,820]

20 hours ago, dit said:

She isnt strong in the US sadly. Abra has been out of the US top 100 on US spotify for ages now

To me at least; you CANNOT be the biggest female artist on all major streaming platforms WORLDWIDE and not have MULTIPLE songs in the top of one of the biggest markets in the world. It doesn’t make mathematical sense at all.

How is BR, Shallow and Just Dance legit not charting when they’re some of her biggest songs alongside DWAS and Abra. It really makes no sense at all. Kinda goes to show you that the charts (especially in the US) are fixed and legit mean nothing.

[gagzus 15,820]

10 hours ago, JustJames said:

There’s no 100% objective way of measuring songs’ popularity,

There is it’s called maths whether you like bits or not if a song has 1m streams and the other has 1m and 1 streams. The latter should be charting higher even if it’s a song from the 90s… like legit show us the 100 current most bought and streamed songs it’s not that hard…

[Ladle Ghoulash 22,831]

21 hours ago, dit said:

She isnt strong in the US sadly. Abra has been out of the US top 100 on US spotify for ages now

But they’re talking about the fact that she’s still the No. 3 most streamed artist on Spotify globally 

[Jessica Germ 2,038]

On 7/1/2025 at 7:16 PM, RochestrMonstr said:

It went recurrent

Girl what is recurrence? 

[27monster27 12,961]

8 minutes ago, Jessica Germ said:

Girl what is recurrence? 

Songs get removed from the chart after 20 weeks IF they can't stay in the top 50. It's to prevent songs from clogging up the chart.

[gagzus 15,820]

12 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

But they’re talking about the fact that she’s still the No. 3 most streamed artist on Spotify globally 

Yeah I was. It makes no sense to me when the most people who will use Spotify will be from the West (with Japan maybe) and the fact she doesn’t have at LEAST 5 songs in the Top 40 of the US and UK but is somehow the 3rd most streamed artist worldwide is just odd to me. The math ain’t mathing.

Edited July 3 by gagzus

[Nagini 2,016]

She'll have something prepared in time for August, keep the faith

Strongest songs on the album deserve a chance

[Jessica Germ 2,038]

13 hours ago, 27monster27 said:

Songs get removed from the chart after 20 weeks IF they can't stay in the top 50. It's to prevent songs from clogging up the chart.

Now isn’t that dumb