andy232000 11,349 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Teletubby said: Beautiful Things was on his debut album his album debuted with 9.7M streams from 10 tracks, not 6M Yes I saw the correct number a few hours ago. 9.7M is still on the lower side as a general rule, but he’s also a very new artist with no hit this time… but his first album did a little over 20M so…I still think it’s a weak ass debut, even if we take into account the apk removal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletubby 148,559 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, andy232000 said: but his first album did a little over 20M his last album received over 9M from his viral song and had 5 more tracks. there is a really small percentage of artists who are able to get +1M per song on release day so him doing 400-500k per track with new album is ok. "You b*tch!" ~ Rat Boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayhem 606 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: It’s okay to not know what queerbaiting is, sister. We support you Oh shut up 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 29,483 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 hours ago, BUtterfield 8 said: How do we embed tweets Replace the "x" with "twitter". Do it BEFORE you insert the link on the text editor, otherwise it won't work. The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 10,043 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: That’s…simply not queerbaiting lmao I actually totally agree with you on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 23,362 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, monstertoronto said: I actually totally agree with you on this. No shade, but I love the implication that we never agree on anything in the way you worded this . But glad we agree nonetheless We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 10,043 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: No shade, but I love the implication that we never agree on anything in the way you worded this . But glad we agree nonetheless I mean I think we have disagreed before but I’m sure we align sometimes too. But I def think the rampant opinion that “any straight guy trying to look hot” is automatically “queer baiting” must be stopped. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 422 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) On 6/21/2025 at 12:52 PM, Ladle Ghoulash said: So, for reference, I think some of y’all think: -Performing for the gay male gaze = queerbaiting -Men behaving or dressing flamboyantly = queerbaiting I don’t know if id consider it queerbaiting necessarily but i think straight men (or men refusing to identify their sexuality) performing for the gay male gaze can be kind of harmful in nature for several reasons. And it feels cheap in a way. I feel like it kinda uses queerness as a tool for clout while he keeps himself at a heteronormative distance. Not to mention straight/cis gendered men are the 1# problem starters and aggressors with gay men. while he might not be directly portraying himself as gay, the imagery, specifically the way he is carrying himself in this specific scene could very easily be misinterpreted as poking fun at or making a mockery of gay men but i will also play devils advocate and say that gay men are the ones giving him the stage to do this on, so. There is that too. Edited June 23 by TheARTPOPball 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 23,362 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheARTPOPball said: I don’t know if id consider it queerbaiting necessarily but i think straight men (or men refusing to identify their sexuality) performing for the gay male gaze can be kind of harmful in nature for several reasons. And it feels cheap in a way. I feel like it kinda uses queerness as a tool for clout while he keeps himself at a heteronormative distance. Not to mention straight/cis gendered men are the 1# problem starters and aggressors with gay men. while he might not be directly portraying himself as gay, the imagery, specifically the way he is carrying himself in this specific scene could very easily be misinterpreted as poking fun at or making a mockery of gay men but i will also play devils advocate and say that gay men are the ones giving him the stage to do this on, so. There is that too. Idk I just don’t think it’s that deep. To me, it feels similar to how Sabrina Carpenter performs sexuality: it’s lightly subversive and it’s intended as a wink-wink nudge-nudge in an almost cartoonish way. I also think projecting the entire baggage of the relationship between cis straight men and queer people onto one guy for cheekily leaning into gay guys thinking he’s hot feels needlessly loaded and I’d say it’s no cheaper than anyone performing intentionally commercial sexuality. Edited June 23 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
popkulture 263 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 he's the katy perry for the boys lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 422 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 6 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Idk I just don’t think it’s that deep. To me, it feels similar to how Sabrina Carpenter performs sexuality: it’s lightly subversive and it’s intended as a wink-wink nudge-nudge in an almost cartoonish way. I also think projecting the entire baggage of the relationship between cis straight men and queer people onto one guy for cheekily leaning into gay guys thinking he’s hot feels needlessly loaded and I’d say it’s no cheaper than anyone performing intentionally commercial sexuality. He's not necessarily doing anything wrong on a personal level but the fact that society is generally ok with this (bc basically none of his hate has anything to do with his flamboyancy) is questionable bc if an openly gay pop star this early in his career were to release the exact same visuals there would be an uproar over it and a campaign against him immediately. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 8,447 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 he can always do ****ography when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doraemon 1,041 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 have you seen the rating from pitchfork? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doraemon 1,041 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 7 hours ago, SimonBaetens said: he can always do ****ography u mean bisexual **** like **** star Colby Jansen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 8,447 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, doraemon said: u mean bisexual **** like **** star Colby Jansen? I don't know who that is but sure when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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