Sabrina Carpenter In Scalding Hot Oil After Degrading Imagery On Her Upcoming Album

[27monster27 12,845]

Honestly this, ironically, is showing that the alt-right is winning the war on sexual liberation. The pushing of boundaries with sex publicly has for DECADES been a part of activism. "Activists" shaming this is literally letting the alt-right win.

[Flareon Voyager 326]

2 hours ago, Anderson123 said:

Is social media really gonna be this offended about that? Jeez. 

People. Not social media. Real people.

[LauraPalmer 658]

she should post her own question for the culture tomorrow 

[Flareon Voyager 326]

I think some people are lucky to live privileged lives.

however, we live in very interesting times. Especially with the manosphere having a full on choke hold on society. That and the added controversy of young boys wearing “your body, my choice” shirts at school makes this seem, eh. 
 

I definitely get what she is doing, but unless there’s a larger concept to be revealed… the art missed the mark. 
 

it’s not about being sensitive about an image. I’m just not into the lackluster execution of the art…

[Duella Dvil 10,424]

HA EROTICA ERA IS HERE

SHE'S NEVER BEEN FOR KIDS HER LYRICS ARE VERY VULGAR WTF 

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1 hour ago, andy232000 said:

She’s one of the most random “it takes 10 years to make it in the business” cases.  but love that for her. 

She will still won't make it if she never opens for Taylor Swift' The Eras tour, that's the real reason. The same with Gracie Abrams. Her fans listens to them and vibe with them as the result. Which also why their streaming and sales numbers are kinda crazy after that. You can take a look around, majority for their stans are also Taylor stans first. 

[faysalaaa 4,254]

Her entire image is more problematic than this picture, I dont see what the issue is?

People have a very shallow idea of what feminism sexual liberation and expression is.

They love sexual expression through the "male gaze" and see it as empowerment, but they will criticize pictures like this lol

Im not a feminist, but even I know what sex positive actually mean, and I also believe we shouldnt police womens sexuality based on political climate

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[Jill 30,014]

3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Ngl the sexual puritanism of Gen Z is wild to me lmao. I’m not saying that the image isn’t provocative, but to claim that engaging with dom/sub gender-based dynamics in pop imagery is intrinsically misogynistic is definitely a huge stretch. But, again, the Discourse™️ is what Sabrina wanted and Discourse™️ she shall get! 

Ideally you could say that, but considering the significant rise of the right internationally and the return of far-right, conservative, and misogynistic perspectives to the mainstream, this type of feminism can be terribly misinterpreted by many people, especially given that the ability to understand abstract concepts is also in decline (many people can't seem to interpret films, books, or music in a way that aligns with what they truly express). I don't see it as sexual puritanism, but as a warning about what could happen with this explosive c0cktail of attitudes and new political and social trends.

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[StrawberryBlond 14,774]

The title isn't that bad but when paired with the image, which I can't believe is actually the album cover, is just distasteful. Look, I'm all for fun, sexy art. But there's ways to do it that don't make an entire group of people uncomfortable. There's ways she could've done this to be provocative but not making it offensive. A close-up of her wearing a fetish collar attached to a tightened leash from an unseen source, for example. Very provocative but is hotter for not showing who's holding the leash. Provocative enough to walk that fine line between sexy and glamourising abuse. But this is just...as a woman, it hurts to see this. I'm tired of seeing this kinda imagery of us. The world should be further along in where women are right now but instead, the world is treating women like objects more than ever. Everywhere I look, I see it. And for the most part, it's men doing it to us. But when women are sexualising themselves in these concerning ways, it just makes you give up hope. She will hopefully do alternative covers as it's a shame for any of her fans who want to support her music but are grossed out by the cover and don't want that on their display case.

2 hours ago, PartySick said:

Degrading?

Sis, I love when my hair is used as a handle  at this point I'm keeping it long so the man can wrap it around his hand and get a good grip  

We can enjoy what we want behind closed doors. But hair pulling is a very niche interest. I don't know how that can be done without being sore. Most of the concern for this image is coming from women and for good reason. We don't want this kind of thing normalised. Men expect us to do so much stuff we're not comfortable with and images like this sends the message that this is what all girls are into, along with all the other much more extreme imagery. Acting out fantasises in public can look abusive in some cases and this is a classic example of it.

2 hours ago, Murakami27 said:

The image is hardly offensive. Or even that sexual. He’s barely grasping her hair with any force. These people can’t handle sh-t. For their sake, I hope they never discover Madonna’s Sex book. 

Maybe to you it isn't. But please respect the views of women who think it is. Images like this affect us deeply. I'm shocked you say that you don't find it sexual, you don't have to be naked to be sexual. And you don't think he's grasping her hair tightly? All I can focus on is how tight a grip he has, his hand looks almost red with how tightly he's holding it. And I have seen Madonna's Sex book. Much more extreme, of course, though some images were very artistic. That one of her hitchhiking naked is such an iconic image. But any images where women are subjugated and degraded are tough to view. That kind of thing is best kept private as it's extremely jarring for onlookers and people with negative views of women can take this stuff as a green light.

1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said:

Not a Sabrina fan by any measures but I actually like the cover, it’s controversial yes but it perfectly highlights what’s she’s all about: using her sexuality and femininity to poke fun of the patriarchy. It’s supposed to be tongue in cheekingly saying that she’s NOT some man’s plaything, she’s her own person. I love it when artists provoke these types of conversations while still stating true to their own brand. This is no different from when females artist use the “plastic Barbie toy” aesthetic to poke fun of misogyny 

I'm totally lost on the ironic nature that so many people are saying. Can you please point out the ironic and tongue in cheek meaning? Respectfully, this is not what message is sent to me as a woman. She doesn't need to be crying with her mascara running for it to be a concerning image. It's what's the man's doing and the menacing way we only see his lower half. This exact image exists in p*rn that isn't trying to be ironic. 

57 minutes ago, Economy said:

Tbh. Her expression doesnt look like someone being abused, it looks like some kind of play

 

Context matters and clearly thats not what Carpenter is going for. Ppl need to relax and stop getting offended that the table is turned 2 degrees the wrong way

Just because a woman is smiling or laughing doesn't mean she isn't being abused. Women have been putting on a brave face since the beginning of time and smiling through our pain just to keep safe. I can't tell you how many times I've smiled and laughed around a man who was making me uncomfortable while my eyes were looking for an exit route. I know that's heavy but it's the truth. What you see as a man is naturally quite different as you see an attractive, smiling woman and associate this with positivity and fun sexuality. But for women, it has a very different meaning. 

53 minutes ago, 27monster27 said:

Honestly this, ironically, is showing that the alt-right is winning the war on sexual liberation. The pushing of boundaries with sex publicly has for DECADES been a part of activism. "Activists" shaming this is literally letting the alt-right win.

This is nothing to do with conservativism or the alt right. Women are just tired of seeing offensive imagery of us that portrays us as objects to be used. It has real world impact on us. We understand when any other oppressed group speaks up about the things that offends them. We understand that if we're not part of this group, we should tell these people their thoughts are valid, listen, understand, empathise. But when it's women? We're over-reacting. One of the most shocking sexual abuse trials is going on right now, Andrew Tate is still idolised, men are adopting the phrase "your body, my choice," women are engaging in horrific sex stunts online, women are still as likely to be killed by their partner as they were 50 years ago. So, images as simple as these may seem small fry in comparison but they have a "drip drip" effect that adds up to a horrifying picture. It doesn't make us sensitive or conservative to want the best for women.

[faysalaaa 4,254]

1 hour ago, Flareon Voyager said:

however, we live in very interesting times. Especially with the manosphere having a full on choke hold on society.

So women shouldnt express themselves sexually because of the political climate?

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[Shipper 13,049]

Honestly, I do not like it. The moment I saw it, it made me frown like an unexplainable ick factor was triggered. There definitely is a chord that was struck and it wasnt the right one. But I guess, any publicity is good publicity so this is good for Sabrina.

They are setting her up with an image and it still feels like it isnt HER decision. If Gaga did this, I will be all for it cause I know she is in control and whatever image she puts out she wants and she had a choice in it.

Sabrina on the other hand, I feel like she is pushed into this image and I havent really followed her enough to see how much say she has in this but it feel very, r*pey and very demeaning. Yes, i know they are setting her up in this cute girl and sex positive but that isnt what it is giving.  It feels like we are going back in the 1950s. I may just be sensitive and hyperaware with what is happenning right now politically, but the fact I need to explain myself and want to get acceptance from others by saying It is okay is not okay in itself. 

It just struck me wrong instantly when I saw it. I honestly dont follow Sabrina and I've listened to a few songs, so I dont know how much say she gets vs what her label wants. I just really dislike the cover. 

That's me though and you can all love it if you want.

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[27monster27 12,845]

I just posted a comment defending her and reiterating what I said, but I instantly started getting dragged, even when I pointed out the history of sexual liberation. I understand that this is a hard time, but this perfectionism in activism is what drives people away from it.

[Gagaism 11,497]

The thing that bothers me most about it all is the ideia of dominance which we all have seen through humanity history since forever and it never ends well. 

I got myself watching a ig reel about puppies having a little fight over food the other day and the comments were all speaking of one of them dominance attitude, then I kept myself (as a person who was abused and neglected as a kid) thinking like, why everything has to be about dominance when in reality we (me at least and maybe some other ppl) just want to have our space respected instead of getting power over somebody else? And humans still want to transfer the same idea to other animals just because we feel like it when it’s clear that it’s actually all about respect or, if anything and in other cases, about leadership which is totally different than dominance.

I think it’s fine when you’re kinky or whatever you wanna do on your intimacy because at the end of the day, nobody’s has nothing to do with your choices unless they’re paying your bills, but thing is, when it comes to public specially in such delicate times like this, artists - whose have the most influence over general people after those miserable politicians - should think better about the choices and implications of making those decisions. 
 

I don’t think a picturing a woman being dominated at this point is actually a good idea tbh, even for setting up a statement unless if you’re able to make a real sense of it. Otherwise is that thing, the first impression is the one that will be kept. 
 

and edit: just to be clear my thoughts have nothing to do with feminism or activism btw specially because I can’t stand the way everything about it gets so trendy and overused by new generations nowadays. It’s just a point of view from my own perspective and life experiences. 

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She should have gone full on BDSM and it wouldnt have looked as bad, because as it stands, it does give more of a "man owns you at all times" vibe than just being submissive during sex.

But anyway, awful photo for an album cover, never been a fan of the vintage polaroid flash look on photos.