AOC Dem presidential polling surges

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On 4/16/2025 at 5:33 PM, PartySick said:

I really hope Kamala sticks around. She's a fantastic leader, even if she doesn't decide to run for office again.

Truthfully, I don't believe AOC would win and I'm still pulling for Kamala's return and the "now lemme give you a chance to fix the mess you made" tour.

I'll vote for anyone with a D next to their name though

No. Keep Kamala away from everything. She couldn't even win the primary in her own state when she tried to run the first time and dropped out before the California vote. She did not perform well speaking or in interviews and trying to make her happen is ludicrous. Let her join the primary if she wants, she will not win.

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1 hour ago, stvn said:

No. Keep Kamala away from everything. She couldn't even win the primary in her own state when she tried to run the first time and dropped out before the California vote. She did not perform well speaking or in interviews and trying to make her happen is ludicrous. Let her join the primary if she wants, she will not win.

That was in 2019 when she was running a much farther left platform. She came into her own as Biden's VP and saw the value of pushing for progress while grounding yourself in realism and pragmatism. For the three months she ran against Trump it was basically the definition of a perfect campaign. She was just dropped into too deep of a hole by Biden.

She absolutely has every shot of running again and stomping. I hope she does 'cause I quite like her. She's up there with Crockett, AOC, and the like as my favorite American politicians.

But like I said, I'll vote for anyone with a D next to their name so it's not really worth the debate  

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On 4/19/2025 at 5:07 PM, PartySick said:

That was in 2019 when she was running a much farther left platform. She came into her own as Biden's VP and saw the value of pushing for progress while grounding yourself in realism and pragmatism. For the three months she ran against Trump it was basically the definition of a perfect campaign. She was just dropped into too deep of a hole by Biden.

She absolutely has every shot of running again and stomping. I hope she does 'cause I quite like her. She's up there with Crockett, AOC, and the like as my favorite American politicians.

But like I said, I'll vote for anyone with a D next to their name so it's not really worth the debate  

She was very unpopular in the 2019 primary and she was very unpopular as a VP, not sure what you are talking about. 

Respectfully, I disagree. If she chooses to enter the next primary, she will not win. Look, I wanted her over Trump too. But it's time to move on. She absolutely was a flip flopper and not firm enough on Palestine and many other issues. People don't trust her, she's cooked. Is it fair? No, probably not. But will she win? No. People don't perceive her as genuine, whether it is fair or not, and she had several totally insane interviews during her presidential campaign. 

The Democratic establishment keeps trying the same things and the same people that keep losing. We are not going to defeat Trumpism with Kamala. I truly believe that. It's too late, and it would be insane to try again. AOC, Buttigieg, Crocket, and whoever else let's let them all primary and find the best candidate. Primaries are the proper way to vet candidates and ensure you have the best candidate--that SHOULD have happened last time, but instead, Kamala was anointed. It didn't work.

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On 4/19/2025 at 6:07 PM, PartySick said:

That was in 2019 when she was running a much farther left platform. She came into her own as Biden's VP and saw the value of pushing for progress while grounding yourself in realism and pragmatism. For the three months she ran against Trump it was basically the definition of a perfect campaign. She was just dropped into too deep of a hole by Biden.

She absolutely has every shot of running again and stomping. I hope she does 'cause I quite like her. She's up there with Crockett, AOC, and the like as my favorite American politicians.

But like I said, I'll vote for anyone with a D next to their name so it's not really worth the debate  

Meh, I still think most people view her as kind of an empty suit and she’s nowhere near my top choice, but I’ll vote for her if she’s the nominee 

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24 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Meh, I still think most people view her as kind of an empty suit and she’s nowhere near my top choice, but I’ll vote for her if she’s the nominee 

Well hey, if she runs again she'll have a whole primary to change that  

But yes, "blue no matter who" is still in full effect