Starmie25 16,658 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 50 minutes ago, hELXIG said: Her being upside down to represent the Southern Hemisphere feels too much like a stan Twitter joke for this to be real Inb4 it was Gaga's idea 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 16,658 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago If this does turn out to be true then I hoping she performs "Gypsy". I remember reading about a very dedicated Aus stan who travelled far and wide to watch all her tour shows up till 2019 sadly. ⚘️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,593 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bronco said: Looking at the dates. It's so clear at this point the Stadium shows/Gagacabana & Mayhem Ball tour will all use the same skeleton but be adapted to what's possible with the venue format (stadium vs arena staging & lighting) We don't know that. They could be entirely separate shows for all we know. The fact that they have different posters suggests they are different shows. Gagachella 2017 and Joanne World Tour are completely different. It makes sense that the stadium shows are the same as Coachella, but that the Mayhem Ball be something else. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Salted 77 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Look at the glare on the O in melbourne 👀 it's giving fake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taumaturg0 209 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) seems fake, her tour dates are listed in ladygaga.com/live, not ladygaga.com/tour Edited 10 hours ago by Taumaturg0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 8,276 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Bradley said: We don't know that. They could be entirely separate shows for all we know. The fact that they have different posters suggests they are different shows. Gagachella 2017 and Joanne World Tour are completely different. It makes sense that the stadium shows are the same as Coachella, but that the Mayhem Ball be something else. The logistics are impossible for them to be entirely seperate shows. It'd be an operational nightmare. The last promotional Stadium show is Singapore on May 24th before the Mayhem Ball kicks off on July 16th. The final Mayhem Ball date is November 22nd with the Aussie promo Stadium shows starting December 5th. Performers would have 6 weeks (and that's without giving them a rest period) to learn an entirely new show for the Mayhem Ball dates. And that's assuming Paris has time to choreograph an entirely new show, while likely supporting the existing shows. And in those 6 weeks it'd be the first full tech run throughs of the new staging. And if anything needed reworking, remaking etc it'd need to be done in those 6 weeks. And the 6 week window is also not accounting for the neccessary travelling to be in place for the July 16th show. And then after that, the stadium stage will have to be mothballed for 6 months (at a major financial cost) and the cast & crew and Gaga would then have to relearn the Stadium show in less than 2 weeks between the last Mayhem ball show and the Aussie shows. Gagachella being different to the Joanne world tour may have sounded like a good comparison - but Gagachella was April 2017 and the tour didn't kick off until August 1st 2017. That's 3 and a half months of dedicated rehearsal time for the world tour. Gaga would have at most a full 4 week month to learn a new tour this time around. It'd kill her with her health condition. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDevacelli 1,530 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago ladygaga.com/tour doesn't even exist, it's ladygaga.com/live. Great attempt 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober 43 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Omg is not the mayhem ball, is the pre-mayhem ball show but after the mayhem ball, probably that means the pre-mayhem ball show is very similar to the mayhem ball one Did you follow? jsjsjsjjs Edited 10 hours ago by Rober Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,217 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I think the “Mayhem in ______” shows and Mayhem ball are going to have slightly different setlists. All the Mayhem stadium dates are places she hasn’t toured to in >10 years, so I bet there will be a bigger focus on her entire discography, whereas the Mayhem ball will have a slightly heavier focus on songs from Mayhem. Probably a 2-3 song difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,593 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bronco said: The logistics are impossible for them to be entirely seperate shows. It'd be an operational nightmare. The last promotional Stadium show is Singapore on May 24th before the Mayhem Ball kicks off on July 16th. The final Mayhem Ball date is November 22nd with the Aussie promo Stadium shows starting December 5th. Performers would have 6 weeks (and that's without giving them a rest period) to learn an entirely new show for the Mayhem Ball dates. And that's assuming Paris has time to choreograph an entirely new show, while likely supporting the existing shows. And in those 6 weeks it'd be the first full tech run throughs of the new staging. And if anything needed reworking, remaking etc it'd need to be done in those 6 weeks. And the 6 week window is also not accounting for the neccessary travelling to be in place for the July 16th show. And then after that, the stadium stage will have to be mothballed for 6 months (at a major financial cost) and the cast & crew and Gaga would then have to relearn the Stadium show in less than 2 weeks between the last Mayhem ball show and the Aussie shows. Gagachella being different to the Joanne world tour may have sounded like a good comparison - but Gagachella was April 2017 and the tour didn't kick off until August 1st 2017. That's 3 and a half months of dedicated rehearsal time for the world tour. Gaga would have at most a full 4 week month to learn a new tour this time around. It'd kill her with her health condition. The creative direction for the Mayhem Ball may be different but the choreography will largely be similar to the choreo at Coachella. This applies to how much Gaga has to learn as well. Also, you're assuming that work on the Mayhem Ball will only begin after Coachella when they could've started already. Again, I think you're overestimating the difficulty of rehearsing for the Aussie shows when the choreo would be largely similar, and the fact that having visited Singapore, Mexico and Brazil means they'll be very familiar with everything already. Enigma had different legs, and Gaga did a quick warmup before each leg, but you can't call it a full-blown rehearsal as if she's preparing for a completely new tour when it's a concept they will be very familiar with by the Australian dates. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 4,442 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Her schedule is a mess this era They definitely tried to book stadiums for every show but they couldn't and now they're separating the stadium/festival show and the arena tour I hope we're getting 2 different shows to justify this mess and not make it that obvious Edited 8 hours ago by LG2008 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 8,276 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Bradley said: The creative direction for the Mayhem Ball may be different but the choreography will largely be similar to the choreo at Coachella. This applies to how much Gaga has to learn as well. Similarities aren't and I quote: 2 hours ago, Bradley said: We don't know that. They could be entirely separate shows for all we know. What I've said from the start (and you disagreed with but are now saying in response to me?) is that the Mayhem Ball will use the same skeleton as the Mayhem Stadium tours. I think people are getting themselves too worked up towards disappointment if they expect "entirely separate" shows. It'll be like P!nk's Beautiful Trauma tour, 2023/4 Summer Carnival tour and Trustfall tour. Adaptations will be made based on the creative possibilities and logistics of the venue format but will ultimately rely on the same DNA. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,436 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Bronco said: The logistics are impossible for them to be entirely seperate shows. It'd be an operational nightmare. The last promotional Stadium show is Singapore on May 24th before the Mayhem Ball kicks off on July 16th. The final Mayhem Ball date is November 22nd with the Aussie promo Stadium shows starting December 5th. Performers would have 6 weeks (and that's without giving them a rest period) to learn an entirely new show for the Mayhem Ball dates. And that's assuming Paris has time to choreograph an entirely new show, while likely supporting the existing shows. And in those 6 weeks it'd be the first full tech run throughs of the new staging. And if anything needed reworking, remaking etc it'd need to be done in those 6 weeks. And the 6 week window is also not accounting for the neccessary travelling to be in place for the July 16th show. And then after that, the stadium stage will have to be mothballed for 6 months (at a major financial cost) and the cast & crew and Gaga would then have to relearn the Stadium show in less than 2 weeks between the last Mayhem ball show and the Aussie shows. Agreed. I just think they are labelled different because of the setlists. Coachella/Mex/Copacabana/Singapore (add Aus if it ends up being real) will probably be a greatest hits + tracks from MAYHEM setlist while the proper tour will focus on the new album just as an usual tour. I believe the stage will remain the same adjusting it for arenas Edited 8 hours ago by elegidadedios Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 8,276 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, elegidadedios said: Agreed. I just think they are labelled different because of the setlists. Coachella/Mex/Copacabana/Singapore will probably be a greatest hits + tracks from MAYHEM while the proper tour will focus on the new album just as an usual tour Yeah I think this will be it. Coachella is most likely to be the OG skeleton everything else gets grafted onto. Probably see Mayhem tracks in the minority for Coachella and then Mayhem tracks take up more space from Mexico onwards. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,593 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, Bronco said: Similarities aren't and I quote: What I've said from the start (and you disagreed with but are now saying in response to me?) is that the Mayhem Ball will use the same skeleton as the Mayhem Stadium tours. I think people are getting themselves too worked up towards disappointment if they expect "entirely separate" shows. It'll be like P!nk's Beautiful Trauma tour, 2023/4 Summer Carnival tour and Trustfall tour. Adaptations will be made based on the creative possibilities and logistics of the venue format but will ultimately rely on the same DNA. When I said separate shows I meant conceptually. The choreo could be similar across all the shows with different concepts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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